Luis Suárez

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This one is going to run for a while

[Vermilion]

Hunter is absolutely taking the piss out of the PFA with these captions

https://www.facebook.com/ReginaldDHunter/photos_stream

[Kirkbyite]

To be honest though, if it wasn't for Suarez racially abusing Evra, then there would be no problem with this comiedian. And for that, Suarez should have another 4 game ban.....it is all his fault.

I know some people will say John Terry is just as bad, but he was only repeating what he thought was said to him - albiet in a more vigorous manner. It was basically a case of lost-in-translation. Suarez on the other hand was a pre-meditated hate attack.....although at home in Uruguay, it would have been considered acceptable.

As Luis Suarez was told though, to be incorporated into this country, you need to abide by the rules and customs of the country.....you can't go around calling people names - regardless of the intent. It is just too offensive. Unless you are booking a comiedian.....then it is a free country....

Thought John Terry called Ferdinand a ****ing black cunt though didnt he? Stranger things have happened but think Terry is in no danger of being accused of being called a name like that(well possibly without the black part) its like calling Purple Aki 'Casper'

[ChesterDave]

The angry mob caption..

The blonde is quite fit.

[Assassin]

The angry mob caption..

The blonde is quite fit.

Dave, it's all about detail fella. She is not blonde

[ChesterDave]

Nah, seriously. She's blonde. And blonde girls love it, absolutely love it, when you compliment them on how nice their dyed roots look.

[danperkins]

The PFA are shocked!!! They had no idea Hunter would be so controversial or use inappropriate comments:

The titles of Hunter's previous Edinburgh festival shows include 'A Mystery Wrapped In A Nigga', 'Pride And Prejudice And Niggas', 'F*ck You In The Age Of Consequence', 'The Only Apple In The Garden Of Eden And Niggas', 'Trophy ******' and 'Work In Progress...And Niggas.'

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[Shaggy]

The PFA are shocked!!! They had no idea Hunter would be so controversial or use inappropriate comments:

The titles of Hunter's previous Edinburgh festival shows include 'A Mystery Wrapped In A Nigga', 'Pride And Prejudice And Niggas', 'F*ck You In The Age Of Consequence', 'The Only Apple In The Garden Of Eden And Niggas', 'Trophy ******' and 'Work In Progress...And Niggas.'

[Shaggy]

Stumbling through a moral minefield... football condemns the comedian but applauds the rapist

By Martin Samuel

PUBLISHED: 23:47, 30 April 2013 | UPDATED: 23:47, 30 April 2013

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And yet they weren’t embarrassed about Ched Evans. A year ago, when the Professional Footballers’ Association last sat down to honour the outstanding members of their organisation, Sheffield United striker Evans made the League One team of the year. He was widely agreed to have had a good season, until an unfortunate event occurred. He was convicted of rape and sentenced to five years in prison.

The verdict was reached at Caernarfon Crown Court on Friday, April 20, with the PFA dinner on Sunday, April 22. The organisers ploughed ahead.

They did not discreetly withdraw Evans’s name from the roll of honour and so he was lauded and applauded, along with the rest, as if 35 goals in all competitions was of greatest importance on the night.

Not only were the PFA without shame, the organisation defended that decision. A year later, a black American comedian called Reginald D Hunter uttered racial epithets in context during his act at the same dinner, and football imploded.

The sport is no longer in a moral maze but a moral cul-de-sac. We are at a dead end with our perception of ethical principle. We do not know where to turn, we cannot retrace our steps, we see no way out.

David Bernstein, the Football Association chairman, was present during Hunter’s act but scuttled away refusing to comment. He promised a reaction on Monday. None came.

On Tuesday, he joined FIFA’s anti-racism task force. Bernstein is presently head of an organisation that, in the Luis Suarez and John Terry cases, has removed context from language and, now reaping the consequence, has nothing to say.

What statement could he make? If he supports Hunter’s right to free speech, he undermines the FA’s argument that all racial language is offensive, regardless of circumstance. If he admonishes him, he is an old white guy lecturing a younger black man on racism.

Welcome to the minefield, chairman. You planted them. Now pick your way out.

If we drew up a charter for football this morning, rule number one should be: Lighten up. ‘We have to consider in future whether to book a comedian again,’ said PFA chairman Clarke Carlisle. That’s right, comedy is the problem, rather than the febrile atmosphere in which football exists.

Last week, Queens Park Rangers were greatly vexed when a photograph appeared on Instagram of goalkeeper Julio Cesar wearing a Chelsea shirt. He was also sporting a red and white striped afro wig, as were all his family. The occasion was David Luiz’s birthday party, the theme was fancy dress and the Cesar clan had come as the host. Luiz and Cesar are best friends.

‘We will be dealing with the matter internally,’ said a QPR spokesman. What matter? Friendship? Costumery? Jokes? Rangers are removing the context of the Chelsea shirt and wish to discipline Cesar for an act of disloyalty even though, obviously, none was intended.

On Sunday, Jose Bosingwa was similarly rebuked for laughing after Rangers’ relegation. Yet there are smiles at funerals and most certainly at the wake. After the Rangers game at Reading, a colleague of Bosingwa’s made a remark. He cracked.

Rangers manager Harry Redknapp clearly offered a humorous aside, too, as he shook hands with Nigel Adkins, his opposite number at Reading. They had just watched a dismal goalless draw relegate both teams.

‘It’ll never replace football,’ said Redknapp. It was gallows humour, a very English trait. ‘God laughs and snaps his fingers,’ wrote Joe Orton. ‘The only thing for man to do is imitate God and snap his fingers, too.’

The time to take issue with Bosingwa was earlier in the season when he was, frankly, useless. By Sunday, the damage was long done and everybody knew it. There were no camera shots of sobbing Rangers fans, either. The race was run.

So if rule number one restores humour, rule number two addresses equivalency. Part of the reason football is trapped in an ethical vortex right now is its pretend scale of badness. Hunter’s language caused consternation on Sunday because racism is presently considered the big taboo and off limits, even for a black comedian. Rape, last year, not such a big whoop.

‘I wonder what Kim Little and her female colleagues thought of it, because it was such a momentous night for her,’ said Carlisle of the first recipient of the Women’s Player of the Year award and Hunter’s routine.

Maybe ask her what she thought of the round of applause for Ched Evans first. Carlisle’s concern echoed prosecutor Mervyn Griffith-Jones summing up at the obscenity trial of Lady Chatterley’s Lover by asking the jury, ‘Is this the kind of book you would wish your wife or servants to read?’

Thankfully, our womenfolk no longer need to be protected from literary porn or the C-word in a comic context. Rapists, though, they could probably do without.

Equivalency has been causing carnage all week, since Luis Suarez was banned for 10 games for biting — an offence that was therefore deemed more serious than racism (eight games for Suarez) and tripping the referee (seven games for Ashley Barnes of Brighton and Hove Albion).

Clouding the issue: Ashley Barnes (above, right)) received a seven-game ban for tripping referee Nigel Miller, while Luis Suarez was handed a ten-game ban for his infamous bite on Branislav Ivanovic

Suarez’s racism was considered worse than that of John Terry, however, as the Chelsea captain received only a four-game ban. Is it any wonder that we can’t work out how to respond to gags when genuine events still cause confusion? Shall we solve this now? How about a catch-all charge of ‘exceptional misconduct’ carrying a statutory eight-match suspension for a first offence, rising in two-game increments thereafter, to apply to all offences that do not form part of the game.

Right now, if a player runs out this Saturday and sticks a banana up his opponent’s nose, the FA have to work out first if it was a racist banana or just the nearest fruit product available and then decide whether this is worse than biting, or tripping the ref, or shouting racist abuse.

As there is no definite answer, no finite calculation to be made, they can never win.

A charge of exceptional misconduct with a set punishment could be employed every time a weary FA official picks up the telephone, is told the latest and utters the words, ‘He did what?’ It could be known as the FFS rule, the acronym of the exclamation most commonly uttered when told that Suarez did not attempt to get on the end of Steven Gerrard’s cross but chose to bite Branislav Ivanovic instead.

Below that, a charge of exceptional violent conduct carrying a six-match ban rising in two-game increments for further offences, could cover those challenges that are so dangerous they transcend a red card or three-match suspension. That way the FA could ensure justice is done, without re-refereeing matches.

But back to racism. With hindsight, in whatever context, Hunter was not the wisest booking for what is basically a corporate occasion in an industry that has had significant high-profile race issues in the last two years. A man whose recent tour titles have included Trophy Nigga and Pride and Prejudice... and Niggas, is destined to leave a few shifting uncomfortably in their seats if he delivers his proper act. Quite who, however, is the nub of the problem.

According to those present, the room split three ways as Hunter spoke. There were those who found him funny and his language acceptable in the context of the social points being made; those who were mortified; and those who might have laughed but were unsure how this would be perceived.

That last category was almost exclusively white, the others mixed.

For race divides the black community, even more than it unnerves whitey. Jason Roberts has been very outspoken on race issues but is believed to have had no problem with Hunter’s material. Nor did his uncle, Otis, a former Grenadian international, now running the Jason Roberts Foundation. Rio Ferdinand was equally unperturbed, it was said.

Former Wolves and Stoke City centre half George Berry, now a senior commercial executive with the PFA, thought the — predominantly white — journalists bustling around for reaction were making a fuss about nothing. Some said the majority of those who found Hunter amusing were black.

Against this, Carlisle is black, was truly upset and was not alone.

Bobby Barnes, another senior PFA executive who helped draft Monday’s apologetic statement, said he was shocked by Hunter’s routine, not least because his guest, lawyer Henri Brandman, is Jewish and the set contained at least one reference to his faith.

Barnes is not allied with those, like Hunter, who seek to reclaim or disarm the N-word with casual usage. ‘If my dad heard me say it, he would turn in his grave,’ he explained.

The PFA insisted that it had explained the nature of the event and the audience to Hunter and that swearing and racial references were to be avoided.

Yet why book a comedian and then declare what jokes he can tell? Employing Reginald D Hunter and forbidding him to mention race is much like engaging Rod Hull but telling him to lose the emu. Race is what Hunter does.

The PFA were like Alan Partridge slathering over the prospect of strip-troupe Hot Pants on his show, only to be horrified on discovering they are male.

VIDEO Hot Pants join Alan Partridge sipping Sprunt in the jacuzzi on Knowing Me, Knowing You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOr5cyLvqOM

Strangest of all is that so few can remember what Hunter actually said to offend.

By the sounds of it, once he dropped the first N-bomb and then repeated it a dozen times, few were listening to the words in between.

‘He had the audience in the palm of his hand, but for all the wrong reasons,’ said a guest. ‘The first 10 minutes were delivered to silence. I think people were just trying to take in what was happening. It was as if a herd of buffalo had run across the stage.’

So where do we now stand with the N-word, or with racially-charged language generally? Do we accept that there must be grey areas, context, at the very least an informed debate if we are not to plunge headlong into confusion? Among the most articulate, intelligent black voices of the last 20 years is the comedian Chris Rock. The routine that made his name, included on the 1996 DVD Bring The Pain, is called Black People versus Niggaz.

Delivered to a howling, primarily ethnic audience, Rock defines the difference between working-class black culture and the shiftless criminal black underclass. ‘I wish they’d let me join the Ku Klux Klan,’ he says at one point. Rock uses the N-word 39 times in eight minutes and 13 seconds. So do we tell him off, too?

Do we remove context from rap music, from the autobiography of Miles Davis, from the films of Spike Lee? Do we tell Reginald D Hunter that he cannot talk truthfully as a black man because our society has evolved so far it finds no place for nuance? His act was at least out of place, but only because we have made it so with our rigid rules.

For it would seem that if there is this word, this one word, that is so unconscionably terrible that at the very utterance of it a person loses his perspective and his mind, then the word, or the person saying it, has control.

An argument being won is lost, because two trigger syllables can bring on the demise of reason. Whereas if a person doesn’t let it faze him, he maintains control and he wins.

But that’s not my cool logic. It belongs to a black guy. To Reginald D Hunter, in fact. No joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2317414/Martin-Samuel-column-Reginald-D-Hunter-condemned-FA-rapist-Ched-Evans-applauded.html#ixzz2S1ZNDhuj

[Assassin]

The PFA are shocked!!! They had no idea Hunter would be so controversial or use inappropriate comments:

The titles of Hunter's previous Edinburgh festival shows include 'A Mystery Wrapped In A Nigga', 'Pride And Prejudice And Niggas', 'F*ck You In The Age Of Consequence', 'The Only Apple In The Garden Of Eden And Niggas', 'Trophy ******' and 'Work In Progress...And Niggas.'

This should be trending on the likes of twitter

[Yozza]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22356789

Luis Suarez: Inside the mind of Liverpool's Uruguayan striker

"When you understand Luis' background and where he comes from, he sees football as his opportunity to succeed in life, then you can understand his determination."
Getting inside the mind of Luis Suarez, 26, appears a difficult task, as his career treads the thin line between footballing brilliance and flawed genius, but a close friend and former Ajax colleague believes his tough upbringing is a good place to start.
Herman Pinkster was a member of Ajax's backroom staff when Suarez was banned for seven games after biting PSV Eindhoven midfielder Otman Bakkal in 2010. This was four months after the Uruguayan had hit the headlines for a deliberate handball against Ghana to help earn his country a place in the World Cup semi-final.
Luis Suarez's rise to the top

24 January 1987: Born in Salto, Uruguay.
2005: Makes professional debut with Montevideo club Nacional.
2006: Signs for Dutch side FC Groningen and scores 10 goals in 29 appearances.
8 February 2007: Makes debut for Uruguay and is sent off in the 85th minute.
August 2007: Joins Ajax in a deal worth in the region of £6.3m.
28 January 2011: Liverpool agree a deal worth up to £22.8m for Suarez.
2 February 2011: Scores on his debut, a 2-0 win over Stoke at Anfield.

Now, with the 'Suarez debate' very much back at the forefront after the Liverpool striker received a 10-match ban for biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic, Pinkster believes his 'win at all costs mentality' can be traced all the way back to his childhood in Uruguay.
Born in the Uruguayan city of Salto on 24 January 1987, Suarez once had to reject the chance to attend a Uruguay youth team training camp because he couldn't afford a pair of boots. Money was tight as the player fought to succeed.

"When you have such a determination to win games and you are such a warrior from the nature inside, it is very hard to change it," said Pinkster.
"We really had to adapt, we had never had a player like that, that was so determined to win games, to focus like a soldier in a war.
"When he regrets something he is really sorry, but when he has the full commitment that he is 400% right, he never will regret things."
The word 'winner' is a common characteristic used to describe Suarez by the people who have seen his rise from kicking around on the streets of Montevideo, Uruguay, to signing for Liverpool for £22.8million in January 2011.
His ability has rarely been questioned, scoring 111 goals in 159 appearances for Ajax and a regular for Uruguay, but his temperament has been brought into doubt a number of times along the way.

"He is a kind person. He is Dr Jekyll outside the pitch and sometimes Mr Hyde on the pitch," said Tom Egbers, the presenter of Netherlands's version of Match Of The Day, who also describes him as a "wonderful" player.
"He behaves like an animal at times. He can be terrible on the pitch, he can do terrible things. Swearing, kicking, diving, all the tricks. He does not mean to harm anyone, to injure someone.

"He just wants his opponent out of the way by any means. He is street smart. It is obvious he has not had his education from Eton. He is from Montevideo, Uruguay. Everything is permitted in his view to win a game.
"Something in his brain happens and he genuinely apologised to the player and humbly accepted the punishment."

Just in his Premier League career alone, Suarez's list of misdemeanours include racially abusing Patrice Evra, admitting diving and being pilloried for a handball goal against Mansfield.
His dark side can be traced as far back as to when he was sent off as a 15-year-old for head butting a referee when a youth player for Uruguayan side Nacional and was seen again when he saw red for dissent on his international debut against Colombia in February 2007.

"He is the type of player that once inside the box he is capable of anything to score a goal, to get the ball from an opponent. Obviously this kind of thing shouldn´t happen, cannot happen. It´s happened to him," said his former Groningen team mate Hugo Alves.
"He does anything to win. He is a winner. And because his way of thinking, if he is in the heat of the moment, full of emotion, he makes this kind of mistakes. In a middle of an emotional game, he can vent it in a wrong way."


One of Suarez's former youth coaches Julian Moreno, said that winning mentality was evident throughout his time at Nacional: "He never liked losing. He wanted to win everything, that's something he always showed."
Suarez signed for Dutch top flight side Groningen from Nacional in 2005. The club's then technical director Henk Veldmarte said it took just "15 minutes" to spot his potential in a trial match.
Arriving in Holland as an 18-year-old without any grasp of the language, it was initially a struggle for the striker but there was a sense of unshakeable confidence in his own ability.

'Luis is a kind of a person that when he was in Groningen it seemed like he was in Uruguay in his native neighbourhood. I had lots of difficulties when I arrived here. I thought…What am I gonna say? What am I gonna eat? Not Luis," said Brazilian Alves.
"Without speaking a single word of English or Dutch he goes to market and buys exactly what he wants. He can communicate with people without knowing one word of their language. Once he got a car, without knowing how to drive.
"He said "I want the car now, I can learn how to drive later on." Obviously he had a driving licence, he had just to change it for a Dutch one. But that shows how easy it was for him to get used to things.
"He had a good relationship with his neighbours, with people who lived close to him. He talked to everybody. He talks to the club doorman in the same way he talks to the chairman. He does not make any distinction."
Such single-mindedness has been evident throughout Suarez's career. From attempting to forcing through a move to Ajax in 2007, when he even took former club Groningen to court, to taking his one-month old daughter on the pitch at the Amsterdam arena, despite being told 'no'.
Suarez has always done things his own way and, no matter what criticisms have been thrown his way, one thing almost everyone is in agreement with is his talent as a footballer.
"He is one of the top three most spectacular players Ajax have had in the last 100 years, there is Cruyff, Van Basten and Suarez," said Egbers.

'What's eating Luis Suarez?' Listen to BBC Radio 5 live taking a special look at the the talented yet controversial Liverpool striker on Wednesday 19.30BST.

[Shaggy]

"He is one of the top three most spectacular players Ajax have had in the last 100 years - there is Cruyff, Van Basten and Suarez," said Egbers.

[Assassin]

Just beat me to it Shaggy