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    Originally posted by Arn View Post
    IMO it wasn't his decisions not to appeal the eight and ten match ban he got.

    The club forced him to accept the bans and not appeal.

    He clearly wanted to go all the way and clear his name, that is my opinion.

    I think he is pissed off because of that. He could accept it one time after the eight match ban but not twice.

    Yes he acted in a very bad way but if the player want to clear his name then he should at least get a chance to do it.

    That is my opinion.
    This may be your opinion Arn, but in my opinion it is completely wrong.

    According to FA regulations, and I have posted the exact link to this before, once convicted of an offence you can only appeal the judgement on the basis of procedural error, or you can appeal the details of the punishment (under risk of them being made more stringent rather than less). You cannot however appeal to "clear your name", there is no provision for that whatsoever.
    I could not dig, I dared not rob:
    Therefore I lied to please the mob.
    Now all my lies are proved untrue
    And I must face the men I slew.
    What tale shall serve me here among
    Mine angry and defrauded young?

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      Ok this puts a slightly different slant on it.. @edflinkinp: @JimBoardman UNCUT FULL-LENGTH translation of the #Suarez interview today. From a native speaker (me) > http://t.co/Aka9tMg8o6

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        Interviewer: All right, now I gotta ask you about the future because it seems it's very interesting for all of us the Uruguayans. We've always liked to have--we had a few Uruguayans in Madrid right? But it really could be something of pride for all (of us). Are you close to the Merengues? Did your agent tell you something?

        LS: No, obviously one has the desire to be successful in big teams, the hope and dream to make it into the biggest teams in the world are always there, I talked to my agent and there's nothing in concrete yet, and saying no to Real Madrid will always be difficult, even more to a team like that, and I believe that everyone knows that I have a contract with Liverpool but, I want to make it clear that to Real Madrid it's hard to say no, but also it's understandable that there's a lot of rumors and a lot of talking when sometimes they (the press, probably) are just talking for the sake of it, but you have to understand that on this transfer window there will be a lot of talking, there have been mentions about other teams that are supposedly interested but you never know that until the time where they (sit and) talk about it and the concrete offers start appearing.

        Interviewer: And, Luis, you are, obviously happy in Liverpool, that's clear enough, you have a huge backing from the fans that love you, but, is everything much more complicated for you in the rest of England? Hasn't that worn you out?

        LS: I can only have words of gratitude for the Club, the Fans, and the people of Liverpool. I love, I love to be in Liverpool, I am happy in Liverpool but I think that the treatment I've received in the last few weeks, the last few months I think--it was a mistake I made, and I accepted it, I came forward to apologize and I think that every time you make a mistake you have to accept it and recognize it and I believe I did that but there has been talk of things that have nothing to do with the mistake I made, they've hit me from every angle and, I am human, and you take it all because you know how football is, but I think they've gotten to talk about aspects that they don't even have to and it hurts a lot, I have a family to look after which also suffers, and I believe a line has been crossed and I've grown tired of it, I've got to suffer as well as--I have a daughter and a wife and I think I'm not prepared to keep bearing the English press.

        Interviewer: Sure, and Luis, you have many people on your surroundings, well your family and people who give you advice, is the advice that, if you can, can you go to another important league, for example the Spanish?

        LS: Let's see, I.. like I said, I love Liverpool (the club), I love to be in Liverpool but if, if there's any possibility of trying to play in other place, mostly because of the fact that I suffered a lot as a kid, I fought a lot to get to where I am today just to let some journalists like the English bug me, and criticize me in an unjust manner, they've never valued me or credit me inside of the pitch as a player, but only (care about) my attitude and I think it's gotten to a limit that gets tiring.

        Interviewer: Luis, you aim at the journalists. From here, following the Premier League the way we can follow it, or reading about it on the different articles, there are opinion columns (you've received) that are absolutely grotesque and hurtful. But, can this be generalized to the fans of all Liverpool rivals? Did you receive any mistreatment on every stadium you played?

        LS: No, I think that after what happened with the racism case, things were cooling down, and were getting better, there were people who understood it was in the past, but I think that the treatment that I received from other teams has always been... It was more like, I always felt it as something to intimidate you and make you feel uncomfortable with the whistling, something that is normal in football and that didn't affect me or my family at all because it's normal the way many players are booed. What did hurt me was mostly the journalists because of the way they spoke about me, as if they knew me from my entire life, and all the things I did, let's see, they are there to talk about a player and how he plays and of course his attitude but it's gotten to the extreme where you get tired, you suffer, and I believe they said things they didn't have to and, I'm a human being that has feelings and there are things they say that hurt.

        Interviewer: Is the club still insisting on you to stay? I'm asking you this after the fact that marked the end of the season a little bit, that incident with Ivanovic...

        LS: Yes, obviously the club I think has always wanted me to stay but well, I've spoken to the coach, the coach knows very well what I want, the coach was a player, there are teammates that understand my situation, they know it's a difficult situation, and I think with that it gets a bit more understandable.

        Interviewer: Well you have over there (in the national squad) Edinson Cavani, your teammate and friend, maybe I don't know but, on the last 3 or 4 days, the Spanish media, especially the ones that write about Real Madrid, sometimes cover with Luis Suarez, sometimes cover with Cavani because one of you two will surely end up in Madrid, so you can banter a little bit with him there..

        LS: Well that's something of pride, like you said at the beginning, to the Uruguayan people, that one (of us) has the possibility but well, it's the both of us that are being talked about, there are talks about other players as well but I think we have to wait until something is more concrete, until things gain a bit more depth, but well, the important thing is that is means more like a recognition, that the two of us are doing a good job and, that we hope to represent the national team in the best way possible.

        Interviewer: You have Guardiola as your agent?

        LS: Yes, yes. It's Guardiola's brother.
        Interviewer: So you're saying that, HE would negotiate with Real Madrid? A Guardiola with either Florentino or Zidane but, it's a weird branch of this story...

        LS: No, I think that when a team wants a player they pay more attention to the player than his agent and, that's the most important thing.

        Interviewer: You're not going to end up in Barcelona, are you? Well, Guardiola left for Bayern Munich anyway so... But at some point there was some talk about (you and) Barcelona, I think that when you were in Ajax.

        LS: Like I told you! It's talk for the sake of it, many things are said that involve a lot of teams and things that I don't even know of! In football it's like this, there's talk, there's rumors, but until it's concrete or there's a signature you don't know anything.
        The times they are a changin'.

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          Players will always come and go and we seem to have some exciting comings with the same mentality.

          Suarez is a genius and a liability. Teams seem to improve when their team carrying genius players leave as it removes pressure overall. It's different if you have a team full of world class players (Barca, Real etc) but we don't.

          Look at how Arsenal responded when Henry or Fabregas left, Ronaldo for Man Utd etc.

          I think we need more team players and not a sole focus nutter, genius or not.

          If selling means we can go after a world class (potentially) midfield player to replace Gerrard then surely that's a better deal?

          Someone like Strootman or Grenier would improve us more than Suarez leaving would worsen us.
          Was muß, das muß.

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            Originally posted by Florentino Perez
            Luis Suarez is a great player and everyone would want him on their team.
            General chat on Twitter seems to allude to €47m being the price, (which is £40m) with folk saying it's from the Marca ... I can't see it though.

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              if the 40mill clause is in is contract, i'm sure man city would have activated it last year; also his agent may well have insisted on their being one, as when he signed we were not exactly a top 4 candidate, having jus sacked the bodge & getting shot of torres..... it may have been put in for a quick exit/excape route. just a thought

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                That interview seems to clarify that he does want to go. All that poop spouted about how he loved the negative press as it spurred him on seems to be off the mark. He also seems to take little responsibility for the situation and ammo that the press had.

                IF he does then turrah Luis, thanks for the memories. Next

                PS, As for Arn saying he wanted to clear his name over the biting incident. I would've recommended Listerine to take the taste of Serb out of his mouth but other than that it was absolutely, 100% indefensible

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                  Looking more and more likely he will go. Not fussed myself I find myself asking has he really been that good for us ? Some wonderful skill and breath taking goals but has too much negativity around him. If the great luis could stay I'd be ecstatic but won't be sad to see the back of the bad one

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                    From the interview. It would seem the gutter press have achieved their mandate of driving the best player to grace the PL for some years out of the PL. ****ing ******s I hope they are proud of themselves

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                      Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                      This may be your opinion Arn, but in my opinion it is completely wrong.

                      According to FA regulations, and I have posted the exact link to this before, once convicted of an offence you can only appeal the judgement on the basis of procedural error, or you can appeal the details of the punishment (under risk of them being made more stringent rather than less). You cannot however appeal to "clear your name", there is no provision for that whatsoever.
                      What I meant is that Suarez IMO wanted to take both cases all the way and risk getting tougher punishment. If he lost then, then so be it but at least he had done everything he could do. We know that he isn't a racist but he is branded as one his whole life because we didn't IMO let him appeal all the way if necesary.

                      I also think that he wanted to appeal the 10 game ban.

                      IMO the club said no because it could hurt the Liverpool brand to much.
                      Stop the cyberhate


                      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                      Susan Black

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                        Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                        From the interview. It would seem the gutter press have achieved their mandate of driving the best player to grace the PL for some years out of the PL. ****ing ******s I hope they are proud of themselves
                        I will never understand why we didn't ban The Mirror for example from our PCs after their racist headline. We should even have sued a few of them.

                        We could have done a much better job protecting Suarez. A much better job.
                        Stop the cyberhate


                        from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                        Susan Black

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                          If i'm honest with myself, i know that regardless of what's happened with Suarez in England, if Madrid come\came in for him he'd have gone anyway, even without all the bad press he's had, and if he'd behaved like an angel for all his time at LFC.

                          I think if Luis was honest he'd say the same too.

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                            Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                            If i'm honest with myself, i know that regardless of what's happened with Suarez in England, if Madrid come\came in for him he'd have gone anyway, even without all the bad press he's had, and if he'd behaved like an angel for all his time at LFC.

                            I think if Luis was honest he'd say the same too.
                            Totally agree

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                              Originally posted by Arn View Post
                              I will never understand why we didn't ban The Mirror for example from our PCs after their racist headline. We should even have sued a few of them.

                              We could have done a much better job protecting Suarez. A much better job.
                              Yes, it was handled very poorly by the club

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                                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                                I will never understand why we didn't ban The Mirror for example from our PCs after their racist headline. We should even have sued a few of them.

                                We could have done a much better job protecting Suarez. A much better job.


                                IMO if Madrid came knocking it would have turned his head no matter what we did to look after him.
                                "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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