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Of course, absolutely, that's just how the world works. In the general hierarchy we're still closer to the top than the bottom though and a lot of players would atill love to play for us, even if a few of the most established, top earning or top rank players would not see us as a huge draw without CL footy etc.
I just don't personally see that getting all woe-is-us about it (edit - not meaning anyone specific here) and making things out to be worse than they really are does us any favours. Fans of most clubs in this league would love to be linked with the talent we are, and as Sturridge & Coutinho proved, we can buy players who will have a positive impact on our team. As long as that is true then we can get back to the highest levels, and that is all that really matters.
I totally disagree. Other than Torres name one other player who has used us as a "stepping stone". Indeed Torres stayed for what, 3 1/2 years and only decided to quit after Rafa was replaced by Bodgeson. Suarez main reasons for wanting to leave have seemingly been that he is not happy in England after everything that has happened, unless he actually goes to another English club, which I still don't believe he will, we've no reason not to believe that. So I don't see the evidence for this stepping stone thing at all. Unlike maybe Arsenal; Fabregas, Toure, Nasri, Adebayor, RVP. Flamini... not that all those really used them as such, players move on in football, but still, far more appropriate to level that at them than us imo.
mascherano
i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
Used West Ham for that. Only left us after Benitez was sacked, H&G were in full swing and we were falling apart. Hardly saw us as a stepping stone, just wanted to move to Barca at the time, which really was fair enough all things considered.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
Used West Ham for that. Only left us after Benitez was sacked, H&G were in full swing and we were falling apart. Hardly saw us as a stepping stone, just wanted to move to Barca at the time, which really was fair enough.
Don't think Suarez is moving for a stepping stone either. It's just because he's caused an issue for himself and can't handle the fallout. The CL comments only come after it looks like Madrid have no interest in him
He wanted a big fat pay cheque so the runt ran down his contract, kept telling everyone he was staying, then stiffed us. We won the CL and he has done f-all since.
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