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When he did that in the WC I said that thats exactly what I would have done had I been in the same position. I suspect the vast majority would say the same.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
There was only such a big thing made of that handball cause of who went on and missed too many pelantys. How dare Suarez do what any professional would do and knock the whole of Africa out of their world cup!
Unfortunately, a lot fell for the media hype at the time, similar to what's happening now regarding his alleged racism & diving.
When he did that in the WC I said that thats exactly what I would have done had I been in the same position. I suspect the vast majority would say the same.
Even the guy next to Suarez tried to handball it, just anything for them not to score, i would of done the same if Spain was on the verge of getting knocked out.
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Telegraph: "It is unclear what breach of the FA rules Suárez committed given the game was over and Friend may have already left the pitch".
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I dont understand what point that's trying to make - rules can only be breached if the ref is on the field? Sounds a bit daft, if the ref leaves the field and one of the players punches another player, he's clearly going to be punished, whether the ref is on the field or not.
a game ban for suarez might not be a bad thing as stupid as that sounds.
1 - it would take him out the immediate limelight for a short time and allow the circus that seems to be built up to surround him by the media to fade a bit.
2- although every game is a big game, some are bigger than others and we would rather lose him for a game versus a wigan or blackburn than a game against city or united. . . . . in the near future we have no bigger games coming up.
3- it seems to me that we are turning quite reliant on suarez to create that spark for us up top. if he were to serve a game ban it would give others players like maxi a game or hopefully andy carroll the chance to step up and prove his true worth.
4- yes they are professional healthy sportsmen and yes i think they should be able to play 2 games a week no problem, but it would be nice to see suarez given a bit of a break after his long summer with the international team.
People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.
A few weeks after he arrived at Liverpool last January, Luis Suarez expressed his heartfelt wish that he would forge a reputation as something other than the cut-throat of Johannesburg and the cannibal of Ajax. He no longer wished to be the player remembered only for denying Ghana a place in the World Cup semi-finals or biting PSV Eindhoven's Otman Bakkal.
"I would love to change that impression of me," he said. Charged with issuing racist abuse of Patrice Evra when Manchester United visited Anfield in October and under investigation by the Football Association for directing an obscene gesture towards Fulham fans as he trudged from the field after Monday's 1-0 defeat at Craven Cottage: it is fair to say that hope has not turned out as planned.
Suarez, currently preparing a defence believed to be based on linguistic nuance to the allegation of racism, is expected to be told today whether he is to face a second charge in two weeks over Monday night's incident. The FA's Governance and Regulation Committee were last night examining images, taken from the ground's Putney End, which appear to show Suarez reacting to the taunts of the home fans by raising the middle finger of his left hand.
It is not certain, as yet, whether the Uruguayan will face a charge and, if so, what the offence may be deemed to have been. Punishments for similar offences have varied wildly: Birmingham's Stephen Carr was banned for one game for an obscene gesture directed at Aston Villa supporters last year, while Joey Barton was given just a £2,000 fine in 2006 for dropping his shorts to Everton fans. A host of players – including Raul Meireles and Emmanuel Frimpong – have escaped without censure for such offences, while Wayne Rooney was banned for two games this year for swearing into a television camera.
Suarez retains the full support of his club on both issues and is not likely to face any internal disciplinary measures, with his manager Kenny Dalglish suggesting in the immediate aftermath of the game that his striker should be afforded some "protection" from fans' abuse.
That has as much to do with his reputation as a feigner of receiving fouls as the incidents with Ghana, Evra or Bakkal. Indeed, it was the sustained taunts of "cheat" from Fulham's supporters which appeared to rile him into response on Monday. The frustration apparently felt by opposing fans at his theatrics, though, has not yet spread to his fellow professionals.
"It does not matter if it is diving or not, but if we feel that a foul is not a free-kick then we will tell him," said John-Arne Riise, the former Liverpool defender, now with Fulham. "He is a really good player. He just has to play his game. He is lively, it is hard to know where you have him because of his movement and because he always gets his body in the way.
"Yes, he gets frustrated [with physical challenges], but that shows his character. We have to get in hard on him and get on top of him, because if we try to be nice to him he will kill the game off, so you have to be tough. But while he gets frustrated – you could see that three or four times during the game – it goes away quickly, because he is a professional."
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my only concerns with Suarez is the media/fa/rival campaign out to **** him over.....he hasn't helped himself at times though.
On the pitch, he's class - the only issue being he is at times our only real threat, which cause him to try a bit too hard and that can lead to frustration - he just needs a big hug at times and a more experienced 'star' to be on the pitch to try and influence him and get him smiling instead of growling - ideal person would be Gerrard.
We could also do with on or two extra quality players take the burden off him of every attack going through him.
At the moment the oppostion know, get close to suarez, get tight, kick lumps out of him to get him wound up and you stop lfc
i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
I agree with posts about Suarez's workrate and ability - it's genuinely top class and we are lucky to have him. However, a few points:
1. Maybe if he stopped throwing himself on the ground every 2 seconds, then he might actually get a free kick / penalty when it should genuinely be awarded....
2. He needs to learn to shut up. Talking back to refs, and arguing with linos aren't doing him any favours......
3. How stupid was he to give Fulham fans the finger last night. Stupid idiot. He needs to keep his head down and under the radar while this other case against him is on-going....
I don't think defenders are being overly agressive towards him. yes they're getting tight but what are the options? you leave him alone and he dribbles past you and you lose the game? defenders have no other option available to them but to get tight. get tight or get murdered. dalglish and the like got rougher treatment in the past and got on with it. they took real hits from behind.
suarez plays them, he plays for fouls, he goes down at the slightest touch. thats not me being taken in by the media, its me watching him in all our games and seeing it for myself. the only way he'll turn this whole circus onside is by taking the ronaldo route. if you score goals and lots of them, the world thinks you're great and overlooks the fact that you're still the same player at heart. at the moment we have a player that goes to ground, moans at officials, gets wound up and rarely scores. we're losing here.
Gerrard being back would help him no end.
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