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    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    Can anyone imagine Torres in his pomp putting in a shift like Suarez did at Arsenal? To be so selfless and so disciplined? No chance. That's one of the things I love about Luis - he's one of the most gifted players in the world but there seems to be no hint of ego - he works so hard he makes Tevez look lazy. I ****ing love the guy, he's my favourite player by an absolute mile. The work rate and passion of Mascherano/Kuyt and then some, and all the ability in the world.


    When you see how he played against Arsenal, it puts into context when Rodgers says Suarez doesn't want to miss games and just loves to play football all the time.

    Torres was an absolute f*nny his last couple of years here. His workrate was non-existent and we just made excuses for him that he was injured or coming back from injury

    Suarez is 10x the player Torres is and without a doubt, up there with Gerrard, is my current favourite player. He even captained Ajax at something like 23. I still remember when we signed him and he went back to say goodbye to the Ajax fans. A full stadium and he was kicking balls into the crowd. Now you know why they love him so much

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      Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
      And, cf. Polo, I think you're going too far the other way. That's not to say Suárez might not be off at some point but I do think he genuinely means what he says and we should take him at face value. I can't see a way of interpreting it differently.

      Of course things can change so it's wise of you not to overinvest emotionally.
      Yes I probably am, but even if he is genuine Sod's law is that the club would accept a bid and he would be sold anyway.

      My point is emotional attachment to a certain player is difficult for me now thanks to the Torres saga.

      I love Gerrard though.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        Originally posted by rodo View Post
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ns-League.html

        great read too long to copy and paste
        How can it be too long to copy and paste?

        I simply can't click on a link to that site.
        Oh I don't know.

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          Right at the end of the interview, Luis Suarez delivers the line that will bring some light to a rather dark week at Liverpool Football Club.

          Asked what he will do if Liverpool do not qualify for the Champions League this season, Suarez is cryptic at first. And then, unexpectedly, categorical.

          'I will wait until the end of the season and see how we are doing,' he says. 'We won't know until then how we are doing and what our position is so I am prepared to wait until that time.

          'But I want to say now that, if you want to know what will happen to me if we don't qualify for the Champions League, then I will say this: I have a contract with Liverpool and I am very happy here. I will stay.'

          Suarez has said some peculiar things during his Anfield stay but here, in a small interview room at the club's Melwood training centre, the Uruguayan is right on message. It is perhaps as well.

          There have been times this season when one wonders exactly what would have happened to Liverpool had it not been for their remarkable striker.

          Suarez is the kid who used to pretend to be Liverpool manager on his PlayStation back home in South America, the kid whose dream came true

          In 84 games in his two years at Anfield, the 26-year-old has scored 43 goals. Much has been said and written about him during this time that has not been about his football. Although inevitable, given what has happened, it is also unfortunate when he remains one of the most remarkable talents in the game.

          Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard paid his team-mate - and the man who captained the side in Gerrard's absence last weekend - the most striking tribute, telling newspapers Suarez is the best centre forward he has featured alongside in his decade-and-a-half in professional football.

          When I mention to Suarez that this moves to one side players such as Michael Owen, Robbie Fowler, Fernando Torres and, with England, Wayne Rooney, he puffs out his cheeks. Briefly, he looks like that teenager at home in Montevideo again.

          'I get goose pimples when I hear he said that,' said Suarez. 'In my country, we call it Carne de Gallina. Like the skin of a chicken. That's how I feel.

          'Gerrard is such a good player and what he said about me I will never forget. It's unbelievable. He has such a good record over many years in the English game and is a great example to all the players here, especially to me.

          'We all respect him. He has won almost everything and if anything goes wrong on the pitch he never tells the players off. He just speaks to them afterwards and when he speaks to them you can take it as a fact that he is right. He is just trying to help people.

          'It's incredible that Steven hasn't won a championship,' said Suraez. 'Crazy. It must be like having a fishbone stuck in his throat. It is permanently irritating to him. I can't really believe it. You still have to recognise he is an outstanding player.

          'He is a legend in the club and has lifted the Champions League for this club. That makes him special. After all, how many players in Europe have actually done that?'

          As we talk - with the help of an interpreter - Suarez pours water from a flask to make the traditional South American hot drink Mate (pronounced mah-te).

          'It wakes me up in the morning,' he says. On the flask is a sticker carrying the name and face of his two-year-old daughter, Delfina. More observant readers will realise the name is an anagram of Anfield. That is a coincidence but the fact Suarez kisses the right wrist every time he scores a goal
          is not.

          Now she likes to have a scarf, too, so that she can wave it at the start when everybody sings. My wife, Sofia, and her always come to the home matches, whatever time they are. That's important to me. They are the most important people to watch me.

          'It's especially important for my little girl to see her papa at work. She was actually very good for me and helpful during my difficult times here in England as when I came home - no matter what had happened - she was there welcoming me with a smile. These are the things that I never forget.'
          Love story: Suarez and his partner have known each other since they were teenagers

          Love story: Suarez and his partner have known each other since they were teenagers

          The tale of Suarez's courtship with Sofia is a love story in the traditional sense. Having met her when they were teenagers, Suarez - whose parents had separated - was so poor as a young player at Nacional that he found ingenious ways to sustain what was a fragile courtship.

          'When I was playing for Nacional in Montevideo, the players who lived outside the city would be given money by the club to get there and back on the bus,' he said.

          'I lived in Montevideo, though, so I never got any money. I was not entitled. 'Sometimes, though, I would tell them a little lie. I would say I had to make a journey to see someone in my family. I would get the money and that would enable me and Sofia to go out for dinner.'

          Despite his efforts, the night Sofia prepared to travel to Barcelona to study was still a desperate one. The young couple wept together at a bus stop.

          'We started when we were very young,' he said. 'It was difficult as I had no money to support us and when she went to Barcelona I had no money to go with her. I didn't even have enough money to communicate with her while she was there.'

          Ultimately, Suarez's move to Dutch club Groningen in 2006 kick-started his career and saved his relationship. Given 12 days off on arrival to settle in, he instead travelled to Barcelona. He returned 10 days later with Sofia in tow and the couple have never looked back. It is a relationship that sustains him.

          It is not hard to wonder how he would have coped during the troubles of the last 18 months had he been simply another young footballer alone in a foreign city.
          Net gains: The Liverpool striker scores against Arsenal stopper Wojciech Szczesny on Wednesday night

          'We had some hard times when we were young but we have conquered those problems,' he said.

          'She is special and it's an important relationship in lots of ways. She can he hard with me, though.

          'Sofia says that when she sees me with such anger on the field, people will think I am like that at home and think I am always an angry person. Of course, at home I am different. I am completely calm but she thinks people won't know that.

          'She does tell me off when I misbehave on the field and I hope that has helped me become calmer. I much prefer being told off by Brendan Rodgers than by my wife. Brendan is more careful than my wife with what he says.'

          On the Monday morning we meet, Liverpool are reflecting on a defeat the previous day by Oldham in the FA Cup. Later that day, Rodgers is to use a press conference to leave a sizeable lump of criticism at the door of his younger players. Suarez is not included in the criticism. He had scored, just as he did on Wednesday at Arsenal. He may have erred at times in England but he has dragged his club manfully through the first half of the season with performances that make you wonder what he may achieve if Rodgers can surround him with the players he needs.
          Suarez on his wife:
          “I much prefer being told off by the boss than by Sofia”

          I ask Suarez why Liverpool are yet to beat anybody better than Sunderland in the league this season and whether some team-mates share the desire to scavenge for points the way he does.

          'This is the way it is at the moment,' he said. 'Sometimes we play well, as good as being in the top four of the Premier League. Then other times we don't play anywhere near as well. It's just one of those things with football. As a player I just want to win every match but sometimes we just don't play well enough.

          'Every player feels differently about playing football. We are all different people. I am the type who wants to win all the time. I hate to lose. What I can say is the younger players here are very good and the good thing is that many of them are home grown. That means they have a passion for the club. I am sure they are doing the best they can.

          'This year we are playing well against lower teams and are winning. Last year we were not winning those type of games.
          Partnership: Brendan Rodgers will be integral to Suarez's future at Liverpool

          Partnership: Brendan Rodgers will be integral to Suarez's future at Liverpool

          'We are hoping we can do better against the big teams. If we do we have a chance. We have to become stronger in our minds.

          'Look at the Manchester United game (Liverpool lost 2-1). The second half at United was actually very good. We were better than them. In that moment, mentally we were very good and this is the way we should play every week. We actually left the stadium happy, even though we lost.

          'We would like to qualify for the Champions League if possible. If we are able to do that the title will be something for the future.

          'The culture of the manager here is good. The players like the way he makes us play and once the players become more mature they will be able to win the championship.'

          Suarez's relationship with Rodgers will clearly be key to his future at Anfield in many ways. The Liverpool manager has sought to educate his star player in different ways this season.

          'All my managers have asked me not to talk so much on the field,' he said. 'I used to gesture quite a lot during matches. Many managers have told me to behave better on the field and that is good.

          'Myself, though, my style of playing is to show my passion and that is the way I am. I will never allow that to be taken out of me.

          'I have much to thank Brendan for, though, and he knows how much I appreciate this. He always praises me in public and that helps me a lot. It takes some pressure off me.

          'This is really a great club. From being a young boy people want to play here. That's why I came here. It's a dream come true.

          'You can ask my friends and my brothers and they will tell you. Four or five years ago I always played as Liverpool when I was on the PlayStation. Of course I used to win all the matches.

          'In real life, it's harder...'

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            Thanks Cormack.
            Oh I don't know.

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              Great to hear from him but I wonder how long he will stay realistically if we are not challenging for 4th and trophies I would say 2 years max, also FSG will play a factor in this be interesting if we got a bid of 45 million + what would they do
              "All I'll ever do is all I've ever done in any job, and that's promise to fight for my life for the supporters and the people of the city"

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                Shame we didn't have him 2 years earlier. Imagine the 08/09 side with Suarez in it alongside Alonso, Masher, Gerrard, Torres and El Zhar!!

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                  Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                  Shame we didn't have him 2 years earlier. Imagine the 08/09 side with Suarez in it alongside Alonso, Masher, Gerrard, Torres and El Zhar!!
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                    I wouldn't hold it against him at all if he did leave especially for a club like Bayern managed by Guardiola.

                    My concern would be even if we got £60m for him, who would be able to attract that come close to replacing him?

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                      Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                      My concern would be even if we got £60m for him, who would be able to attract that come close to replacing him?
                      We said similar about Torres. And in the end we replaced him with some unwanted nutter from the dutch league for a relatively cheap price.

                      Not that I'm suggesting in any way I want to see Suarez go or that hes easily replaceable.

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                        I can't shake the feeling we got a bit lucky with Suarez though.

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                          Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                          I can't shake the feeling we got a bit lucky with Suarez though.
                          Sometimes you need a bit of luck when signing players.
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                            Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                            I wouldn't hold it against him at all if he did leave especially for a club like Bayern managed by Guardiola.

                            My concern would be even if we got £60m for him, who would be able to attract that come close to replacing him?
                            like for like i dont think you can.
                            [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                              Originally posted by el matador View Post
                              like for like i dont think you can.
                              The one thing that he does that nobody else in the EPL seems able to do is to beat his man in the box. You hardly ever see anyone else taking someone on in the box and beating him for skill.
                              Never knowingly optimistic

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                                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                                Thanks Cormack.
                                Glad to be of service sir

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