Luis Suárez

[Vermilion]

Where does eye gouging come on the scale of misdemeanors ?

above or below biting and two footed tackling ?

[Lecter]

Where does eye gouging come on the scale of misdemeanors ?

above or below biting and two footed tackling ?

I prefer a straight forward headbutt or forearm smash myself

[danperkins]

Of course is isn’t, everyone was abusing him relentless last season and saying they want rid, weren’t they?

People put up with his antics because

1)He was our player
2)Because he's ****ing outstanding

If he was **** and acted like that he would have been ****ed out long ago. Racist language was one thing, not shaking Evra hand was such a slap in the face to the club & The biting incident tipped it for alot of fans.

I have an issue when a player is disrespectful to the club. I just can't condone that type of behaviour from a grown adult & a suppose professional. He plays for himself and not for the team.

Nobody likes a player trying to orchestrate a move to a different club, but that is absolutely not the reason why i called him a toad & i consider him disrespectful to LFC. I can only speak for myself and judge a person on their actions. Suarez is a world class talent, a genuinely gifted player but as a person that behaves like that... i have no respect for him.

If you're happy for player to constantly disrespect our club... that's up to you

[danperkins]

Agreed my 5 year old daughter knows its wrong to bite someone

Havent managed to ween her off two footed tackles just yet though

[RedReet]

People put up with his antics because

1)He was our player
2)Because he's ****ing outstanding

If he was **** and acted like that he would have been ****ed out long ago. Racist language was one thing, not shaking Evra hand was such a slap in the face to the club & The biting incident tipped it for alot of fans.

I have an issue when a player is disrespectful to the club. I just can't condone that type of behaviour from a grown adult & a suppose professional. He plays for himself and not for the team.

Nobody likes a player trying to orchestrate a move to a different club, but that is absolutely not the reason why i called him a toad & i consider him disrespectful to LFC. I can only speak for myself and judge a person on their actions. Suarez is a world class talent, a genuinely gifted player but as a person that behaves like that... i have no respect for him.

If you're happy for player to constantly disrespect our club... that's up to you

Well your tone has certainly changed from saying things like he deserves to be playing at a higher level or that you can't blame him if he wants to go at the end of last season, very much in Suarez’ interests

If you are gonna pretend this sudden change of attitude is nothing to do with what's happened in the summer, then go ahead.

[Neil Young]

Is this worse than a bite?

Every player do stupid things including our captain.

So Suárez has been stupid...

Well, I wouldn't even rule out that he bit Ivanovic so he could get a move. He had a few offers when he played at Ajax but they refused to sell him. After the bite they was prepared to sell him.

Suarez isn't an idiot. If he do something like that then he do it for a reason. He know that the cameras will pick it up.

But that is my opinion.

...and he has also been clever.




That's pretty clever.

Or pretty stupid.

[dom9]

First, I fully believe that Suarez wants to leave. However, I also fully believe that John Cross particularly is pushing a very specific agenda in his articles and basically claiming inside information from one camp when his info is in fact from another. That is simply a balance of probabilities argument, this guy was running stories about the innermost thoughts of the Suarez camp while physically being on pre-season tour with Arsenal in Osaka or wherever it was.

Now perhaps he was having stuff leaked to him by Suarez agent, though physically and practically that would seem an odd choice. Much much more likely that, seeing as he is basically Arsenals #1 trusted mouthpiece in the media (look up his history to confirm that, the guy has been that for about 15 years), Arsenal "sources" are reporting to him what their understanding of the Suarez situation is, and he is then running those. They may be (mostly) correct, at least as far as they understand the situation as doubtless Arsenal are in touch with Suarez agents etc, or they may just be how Arsenal want to have the situation presented.

This is not conspiracy theory-ish, nor is it unwilling to listen to news we don't want to hear. It is, imo anyway, not much different from having a journalist say, embedded with the US army but reporting on what the Taliban are planning. They do have an insight, but that insight, whether naturally or deliberately, is seriously open to bias due to the very one-directional perspective they have. And in this case, that bias is almost certainly intentional which makes it twice as dubious.

If that's what you think, then absolutely fine, but it's not the argument that Sarb put forward (and which I subsequently questioned), as he which he was in 'no doubt' that the Suarez camp were specifically leaking this info to Cross.

Sarb, I see you agree with MrM's post, does that indicate a convenient change in your stance, to perhaps be less contradictory?

[Arn]

People put up with his antics because

1)He was our player
2)Because he's ****ing outstanding

If he was **** and acted like that he would have been ****ed out long ago. Racist language was one thing, not shaking Evra hand was such a slap in the face to the club & The biting incident tipped it for alot of fans.

I have an issue when a player is disrespectful to the club. I just can't condone that type of behaviour from a grown adult & a suppose professional. He plays for himself and not for the team.

Nobody likes a player trying to orchestrate a move to a different club, but that is absolutely not the reason why i called him a toad & i consider him disrespectful to LFC. I can only speak for myself and judge a person on their actions. Suarez is a world class talent, a genuinely gifted player but as a person that behaves like that... i have no respect for him.

If you're happy for player to constantly disrespect our club... that's up to you

You do know that it clearly shows on the pictures that it was Evra that refused to shake Suarez hand?

If you can show any evidence at all that it was Suarez fault then be my guest

[danperkins]

Well your tone has certainly changed from saying things like he deserves to be playing at a higher level or that you can't blame him if he wants to go at the end of last season, very much in Suarez’ interests

If you are gonna pretend this sudden change of attitude is nothing to do with what's happened in the summer, then go ahead.

Em... he does deserve to be playing in the champ league & i can't blame him for waiting to win things.. same as Torres,Alonso,Mascherano. Him as a person however has no reflection on his abilities. Alex said this... and i agreed. Have we not already established that i'm more against the biting,cheating,diving,rascist language & general lack of respect for LFC

Sooooooo you don't really have a point do you? Anyways i said my piece & sure each to their own opinion

[danperkins]

You do know that it clearly shows on the pictures that it was Evra that refused to shake Suarez hand?

If you can show any evidence at all that it was Suarez fault then be my guest

Oh my dear god.

[Sarb]

If that's what you think, then absolutely fine, but it's not the argument that Sarb put forward (and which I subsequently questioned), as he which he was in 'no doubt' that the Suarez camp were specifically leaking this info to Cross.

Sarb, I see you agree with MrM's post, does that indicate a convenient change in your stance, to perhaps be less contradictory?

Well I did say my post was contradictory

But I did also say that Cross is putting across a particularly biased view where he could assess it and present a more balanced article, regardless of who is giving him the information

[Alex]

You do know that it clearly shows on the pictures that it was Evra that refused to shake Suarez hand?

If you can show any evidence at all that it was Suarez fault then be my guest

You dont really belive that do you? I am sure Suarez even apologised for not shaking his hand.

[Sarb]

You dont really belive that do you? I am sure Suarez even apologised for not shaking his hand.

Only because he was made to by the club who failed to back him properly

[Alex]

"I have spoken with the manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong," Suarez said.

Doesnt seem like the sort of person who shoulders much responsibility. So him saying this much carry some weight.

[RedReet]

Em... he does deserve to be playing in the champ league & i can't blame him for waiting to win things.. same as Torres,Alonso,Mascherano. Him as a person however has no reflection on his abilities. Alex said this... and i agreed. Have we not already established that i'm more against the biting,cheating,diving,rascist language & general lack of respect for LFC

Sooooooo you don't really have a point do you? Anyways i said my piece & sure each to their own opinion

So you wanted him sold in May then you are saying?

I’m assuming you also condemned all those acts ferociously when they happened no doubt?