Luis Suárez

[Vermilion]

For 40 mill plus 1! would have been bad enough, but what would we have got at the time Didi says he'd have let him go?

Even without hindsight, we'd have got ripped off. imo.

[dom9]

It was a valid point, but still doesn't make it the correct decision.

Right, so that doesn't mean that the person holding that point of view has lost it.

For 40 mill plus 1! would have been bad enough, but what would we have got at the time Didi says he'd have let him go?

Even without hindsight, we'd have got ripped off. imo.

The club would have held out for more, I'm sure. But then again, there were seemingly no bidders anyway apart from Arsenal. Kinda speaks for itself really. He was seen as toxic in the summer by many people.

That he has turned it around is a credit to him and the club's management team.

[RedReet]

It's funny that any point of view that isn't agreed with on this forum results in the perpetrator being accused of losing it, wanting to make headlines, being a publicity seeker, or general cunt.

It's like people aren't allowed their own opinions.

I was fully expecting this type of response, but why I made my point was that I can't ever really remember Didi discrediting the club much, until this season when we have been brilliant and performing well above expectation. I just find it odd.

[dom9]

I was fully expecting this type of response, but why I made my point was that I can't ever really remember Didi discrediting the club much, until this season when we have been brilliant and performing well above expectation. I just find it odd.

OK, you might be right, but I can't see much in the way of negative quotes in that article. What am I missing?

[RedReet]

OK, you might be right, but I can't see much in the way of negative quotes in that article. What am I missing?

''since he's come back he's scored two in seven or eight playing on the left. How long is he going to do that?

"Yes, he is playing for the team and the team is winning but the centre forward has to score goals.''

Haha, whenever I originally read that I interpreted it as, 'he's only scored 2 in 8 matches and a CF has to score goals (as in more than 2 in 8), so we'd be better off without him'.

Also I was gonna make reference to the Spurs thing, especially as he was still sticking to his guns just a few weeks ago, predicting us to drop out of the top 4. But I looked for some quotes quickly and can't find anything, so I'm wondering if I just read it on here and he didn't even say it.

He's a bitter ****er, misses Rafa and Pepe.

[dom9]

Righto, so Didi is back in our good books then.

You lot would make brilliant tabloid journalists.

[RedReet]

Righto, so Didi is back in our good books then.

You lot would make brilliant tabloid journalists.

Well I'm gonna check for some general articles when in work tomorrow before I make up my mind.

[dom9]

Well I'm gonna check for some general articles when in work tomorrow before I make up my mind.

You do that, but it still won't make up for your wanton misappropriation of a perfectly good set of quotes to back up your preconceptions and prejudices.

[RedReet]

You do that, but it still won't make up for your wanton misappropriation of a perfectly good set of quotes to back up your preconceptions and prejudices.

Haha, they were hardly preconceptions or prejudices, I've always loved Didi. Admittedly I did pick up that line wrong, but I have raised eyebrows at a few of his comments this year, so was more of an observation.

The Spurs thing which did piss me off most (as per sig)...

Didi reckons Spurs will take 4th

Said it on the Sky coverage after the game.

[Fosterbloke]

To be fair, a lot of people here thought Spurs would be a force based on their spending spree.

Didi has his opinion and he's neither right or wrong at the point of expressing it.

[Yozza]

Why Luis Suarez is on course to make Premier League history

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25775979

By Chris Bevan

BBC Sport



Luis Suarez, the most lethal striker in the land, continues his assault on the record books on Sunday as Liverpool look to maintain their title charge against Manchester United.
The Uruguayan returns to Old Trafford, where his stellar season belatedly began after he had served the remainder of a 10-game suspension, with the chance to beat the best goals-per-game ratio of any player in a single Premier League season.

Despite only one goal in his last five matches, the Liverpool star is still the top flight's leading marksman, with 24 goals from 23 games, and there is far more to his game than just scoring.

Just as significantly, especially for his prolific Reds strike partner Daniel Sturridge, Suarez has made more goals than everybody else too.

Of Liverpool's 73 goals from 28 league games, Suarez has been involved in 34.

The 27-year-old has helped Brendan Rodgers's side become the highest-scoring team in England's top four divisions, and they have never scored as many at this stage of a season before in their 121-year history.

Those goals have turned the Reds into genuine title contenders. Only Chelsea are above them in the table.

Liverpool's prospects will be clearer after they have played their old rivals Manchester United. If the Reds are to continue to prosper, Suarez will surely have to play his part.
With the help of Ajax coach Frank de Boer, all-time Premier League record goalscorer Alan Shearer, and veteran Tottenham goalkeeper Brad Friedel, BBC Sport looks at why United might find it hard to keep him quiet.

Suarez the goal scorer

When Suarez returned from his ban for biting Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic, he hit record-breaking form. By mid-January, he had scored an incredible 22 league goals in 16 games.

Suarez has the most goals, shots and shots on target in the Premier League this season

That personal purple patch did not last, and he has scored only two in his last seven league appearances, but he has still more than doubled his usual strike rate for the Reds.
Before this season, his scoring ratio of 0.49 meant he averaged a goal every two league matches. In 2013-14, that has rocketed to 1.04 - in other words, a goal every game.
With 10 games of the season left, if Suarez maintains that strike-rate, he will beat the 31-goal record held by Alan Shearer (1995-96) and Cristiano Ronaldo (2007-08) for most goals in a 38-game Premier League season.

He would also match the 34 goals that Shearer (1994-95) and Andrew Cole (1993-94) managed over a 42-game campaign.

As well as being on course to get the golden boot, Suarez can eclipse Ronaldo and Didier Drogba, who currently have the best goal-to-game ratio of any player who has scored more than 25 goals in a Premier League campaign.

Suarez has not just scored the most goals. He has had more shots than any other Premier League striker this season, and has managed more on target, both by some distance.

"Suarez is having an exceptional season but I don't think his form has been a surprise," Shearer told BBC Sport. "I don't think anybody ever doubted his ability.

"But a striker cannot do it on his own. This season he is playing with better players who are creating more chances for him.

"It is also down to him feeling at home and feeling wanted by everyone.
"The reaction he got at the beginning of the season, when the Liverpool fans did not turn on him after what he said about wanting to leave the club in the summer, showed how much they still appreciated him, which has helped."

Suarez the goal maker

Suarez has not managed figures like this since his time at Ajax, when his best campaign saw him score 35 goals in 33 league games in 2009-10.
It is easy to see why he has scored so many: individually, all of his shooting statistics have gone up, not just the one that shows he took 23 games to beat the total of 23 goals he managed in 33 matches last season.

We are seeing an end product in other areas too. Despite his willingness to shoot from every angle, you could never call Suarez greedy.
He has menaced defences with his dribbling skills and eye for a killer pass since his arrival at Anfield but not to this level - in 2013-14, he has already contributed more assists and been involved in more goals than ever before.

"In some ways this kind of improvement is normal," said Ajax coach De Boer, who sold Suarez to Liverpool for £23m in January 2011. "He needed to get used to his team-mates, to the league and to the country.

"He is playing at a higher level of club football now than he did with us and, with better defenders against him, he had to improve. He has done that.

"Suddenly Luis has got the right feeling of how he wants to receive the ball and his team-mates know how to use him better. I think that is the main reason for his form.
"His dribbling skills have got better since he left Ajax but he could always score - we knew that a long time ago. And it is unbelievable how much energy he gives to the team."

It means that, even when Suarez is not among the goals, he still has an impact.
Cole is the only player to top the goalscoring and assist charts in the same season, scoring 34 goals and managing 13 assists in 1993-94. Suarez could match that this campaign.

Since Sturridge returned from an ankle injury to lead the Liverpool attack in a 2-2 draw against Aston Villa on 18 January, Suarez has been shifted out to the flanks.

Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge

Suarez has formed a formidable partnership with Daniel Sturridge at Liverpool
In the seven league games that have followed, Sturridge, as the central striker, has hit eight goals while Liverpool as a team have scored 21.

Suarez has only scored twice, but also weighed in with five assists and created 17 chances. He has also had 31 shots.

"He can create, score with either foot and his head and score spectacular goals too," Shearer added. "It is his all-round game that makes him different to every other Premier League striker."

Determination and innovation

Suarez's character is regularly criticised, but it actually has a positive effect on his performances.

His will to win is often used to explain away the less savoury aspects of his game, including allegations of diving, but it also fires a fierce determination to maximise his talents.

Luis Suarez scored a total of 81 goals in 110 Dutch league games for Ajax
Suarez scored 81 goals in 110 Dutch league games for Ajax

De Boer recalls thinking Suarez had reached the peak of his powers in Amsterdam, only for the player to prove him wrong.

"I was often surprised," the former Netherlands defender said. "I still do not know exactly what he is capable of because whenever he seemed to have reached his level, he would perform even better.

Friedel on stopping Suarez

"As a goalkeeper playing against Suarez, when my team had the ball I'd always have a little look where Suarez was and if one of my players wasn't near him, I would tell them they should be.

"When Liverpool had the ball, I always had to be prepared. He shoots a lot, and from some strange angles, so you have to expect the unexpected. That is what makes him so dangerous."

Friedel has not been beaten by Suarez in three games for Aston Villa and Tottenham.

"I think that is down to his mentality. When you work with him like I did, you see what he brings to training each day, and the spirit he has. He always wanted to play and give 100%, even when he had just got back from South America."
On top of his work-rate, it is Suarez's imagination that has impressed Spurs goalkeeper Friedel.

The American compares the striker's form to that of Ronaldo when he starred for Manchester United in 2007-08.

"Ronaldo was an example of how the very top players go through spells when they are unstoppable," Friedel said. "He was a player who was always coming up with something new, and exactly the same applies to Suarez now.

"You look at Suarez and the goals he has scored and some of them have been incredible, like his header from the edge of the area against West Brom in October.
"I am not sure how many other players would have taken that on. He saw something nobody else did, tried it, and it came off."

So how good is he?

It is probably a little early to compare Suarez to Ballon d'Or winner Ronaldo, now at Real Madrid, and Barcelona's Lionel Messi as Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard did in December - albeit he was only talking about current form, and said his team-mate was "getting close".

Yes, Suarez starred for Uruguay on a global stage, when they reached the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup, and at continental level in winning the Copa America in 2011, but he has played just 11 times in the Champions League.

"He has to show it at the highest level, and the Champions League is the next step," said De Boer. "Messi and Ronaldo have proved it a lot of years in a row. If he does that, he will be near to them."

Some claim Suarez is on course to become the Premier League's greatest ever striker, but how does his record compare to the top flight's other all-time leading scorers at the same stage?

Shearer leads the way, with 79 goals from his first 100 appearances, compared with Suarez's 62.

Longevity and consistency, however, are clearly the over-riding factors in deciding who the real legends are.

And it should only take a glance at the way the goals have dried up for Suarez's predecessor as a darling of the Kop, Fernando Torres, to temper predictions of what the Uruguayan might go on to achieve.

Torres, now at Chelsea, managed 63 goals in his first 100 Premier League games for the Reds but has hit just 21 in the 104 that have followed.

What happens next?

The worst nightmare for Liverpool fans would be seeing Suarez leave in the summer, and the reality is his bumper new contract might not prevent that if the Reds again fail to qualify for the Champions League.

While a run of seven wins and two draws from their last nine games has some fans daring to dream that their 24-year wait for the title could soon be over, their first target has to be to secure a top-four or, preferably, top-three place.

Even that might not be enough to keep Suarez happy for long.

"As a player, Luis wants to win titles," De Boer said. "I am looking at his situation from the outside but to me it is like Robin van Persie when he was at Arsenal.

"Van Persie had a great time there but he wanted to win things too, and he did that in his first year at Manchester United.

"It is the same with Luis. This year Liverpool are still trying to be champions and hopefully for them they can win the title and he will stay. But if they do not make the Champions League, he might have to consider what to do next."

[Norbs]

I think they'll mob him and keep him quiet on Sunday but Sterling, Henderson and Sturridge will cause havoc with the extra space

[Fredo]

I think they'll mob him and keep him quiet on Sunday but Sterling, Henderson and Sturridge will cause havoc with the extra space

No one can. He's unplayable.

[Gibbo]

Bit one footed isn't he.

Sell.

[Norbs]

No one can. He's unplayable.

They're going to try to harass him and get his mind of the game. It'll be a rubbish tactic as we're not a one-man team