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He managed to get through alot of his career on the pitch without biting anyone up until the Ajax one so he can be helped and he should be helped. I'd also only flog him if they match the release clause in his contract. It was good enough last week after two previous bites it's good enough this week too, especially if the ban is reduced on appeal.
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spot on this
Social media is not always the best guide to public opinion, but it has been revealing on the Luis Suarez issue. Inevitably there are some saying he should be hung, drawn and quartered, and others arguing he has been framed. Many of the extreme judgements are partisan but even among ‘neutrals’ there is a wide divergence of opinion.
What is telling is how many humorous responses there are. Various themed menus, lots of references to Jaws and Hannibal Lecter and so on. Among the most notable is a photo of Giorgio Chiellini, the assaulted player, posing with a woman who is pretending to bite him. Chiellini is smiling. Another photo shows the Brazilian striker Fred pretending to chew on a team-mate.
Then there is the video of Will Ferrell’s appearance at a US supporters’ event. He is introduced by Sunil Gulati, the president of the USSF, as a new player. Ferrell promises, to huge cheers, he will “bite every German player” if he has to, to win the game.
What is the relevance of all this? Imagine if Suarez had broken Chiellini’s leg with a wild tackle or shattered his eye socket with an elbow. How many jokes do you think there would be on Twitter then?
What Suarez did was unacceptable, gruesome and deserves punishment. But to a lot of people it is also rather funny, which is why Fifa’s sentence is disproportionate. Suarez obviously has a problem that manifests itself, when he is frustrated that events are not going his way, by biting. But for this he needs treatment from whichever mental health specialist is deemed appropriate, not one of the severest bans in the history of the game.
Part of the reaction is shaped by our long-standing and entirely understandable cultural horror of cannibalism. Suarez, though, was not actually trying to “eat” Chiellini any more than he was trying to “eat” Otman Bakkal or Branislav Ivanovic. He was trying to hurt them in a fit of temper, but not in a particularly brutal manner. Roy Keane’s assault on Alf Inge-Haaland shows what can happen when a player deliberately aims to injure another.
Of all the many tweets received following an article in this space on the subject yesterday, the most powerful was from a parks player who had been forced to undergo nine operations on his knee after suffering a two-footed tackle. His view was he would much rather have been bitten, and a three-match ban was sufficient.
Given Suarez’s repeated offences and the stage, I would have imposed the standard three-match ban for violent behaviour and added a ban from all football activities for the rest of the World Cup.
How much more imaginative and proportionate it would have been to make this a suspended sentence conditional on his undergoing treatment, to be activated if Suarez reoffended or refused medical help.Oh I say his vision there was lovely
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If only they were as intolerant about their own internal misdemeanours eh?Originally posted by RoboKop View PostIt sends out the message that "FIFA will not tolerate this behaviour" which is what most were wanting so it achieves exactly what FIFA want- to save face. But it most likely achieves very little in terms of correcting luis' behaviour. However, it might force him to work harder at the rehab.Oh I don't know.
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Originally posted by rodo View Postspot on this
Social media is not always the best guide to public opinion, but it has been revealing on the Luis Suarez issue. Inevitably there are some saying he should be hung, drawn and quartered, and others arguing he has been framed. Many of the extreme judgements are partisan but even among ‘neutrals’ there is a wide divergence of opinion.
What is telling is how many humorous responses there are. Various themed menus, lots of references to Jaws and Hannibal Lecter and so on. Among the most notable is a photo of Giorgio Chiellini, the assaulted player, posing with a woman who is pretending to bite him. Chiellini is smiling. Another photo shows the Brazilian striker Fred pretending to chew on a team-mate.
Then there is the video of Will Ferrell’s appearance at a US supporters’ event. He is introduced by Sunil Gulati, the president of the USSF, as a new player. Ferrell promises, to huge cheers, he will “bite every German player” if he has to, to win the game.
What is the relevance of all this? Imagine if Suarez had broken Chiellini’s leg with a wild tackle or shattered his eye socket with an elbow. How many jokes do you think there would be on Twitter then?
What Suarez did was unacceptable, gruesome and deserves punishment. But to a lot of people it is also rather funny, which is why Fifa’s sentence is disproportionate. Suarez obviously has a problem that manifests itself, when he is frustrated that events are not going his way, by biting. But for this he needs treatment from whichever mental health specialist is deemed appropriate, not one of the severest bans in the history of the game.
Part of the reaction is shaped by our long-standing and entirely understandable cultural horror of cannibalism. Suarez, though, was not actually trying to “eat” Chiellini any more than he was trying to “eat” Otman Bakkal or Branislav Ivanovic. He was trying to hurt them in a fit of temper, but not in a particularly brutal manner. Roy Keane’s assault on Alf Inge-Haaland shows what can happen when a player deliberately aims to injure another.
Of all the many tweets received following an article in this space on the subject yesterday, the most powerful was from a parks player who had been forced to undergo nine operations on his knee after suffering a two-footed tackle. His view was he would much rather have been bitten, and a three-match ban was sufficient.
Given Suarez’s repeated offences and the stage, I would have imposed the standard three-match ban for violent behaviour and added a ban from all football activities for the rest of the World Cup.
How much more imaginative and proportionate it would have been to make this a suspended sentence conditional on his undergoing treatment, to be activated if Suarez reoffended or refused medical help.
It truly is.
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Paul Morrissey @Paul_Morrissey
Stadium ban is out of order, kicking Suarez when he's down. Been treated like some sort of sex pest. No practicality other than to shame himPaul Morrissey @Paul_Morrissey
Suarez bit someone on the pitch, FIFA only have jurisdiction to punish him in that context. Banning him from stadiums infringes civil rightsPaul Morrissey @Paul_Morrissey
What are FIFA saying exactly by putting a tacit restraining order on Suarez? Passive-aggressively labeling him a menace to society.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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I'd keep him but I would severely castigate the ****er - ****ing stupid bloke who just won't learn but still one of the best footballers I've ever seenOriginally posted by Nigey View PostI'd still have him. There's no way I'm castigating him for what he's done. It hurts us but love is unconditional. Some of you have no heart or are too selfish.
I can understand people who say we should get shot & draw a line but I still love the ****....What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins
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F*** off!!!
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What utter bollox Nige, it is not love and it is certainly not unconditional. The man is either sick or a grade A bellend. Either way he has let us down for the 3rd time big time, no other walk of life would a senior professional be allowed x3 such incidents. If he is not sick, it is Gross misconduct and a sackable offence in normal industry.Originally posted by Nigey View PostI'd still have him. There's no way I'm castigating him for what he's done. It hurts us but love is unconditional. Some of you have no heart or are too selfish.
Over 30 ****ing games he has now been banned for and probably been paid for all of them.
An utter cunt.Last edited by kev776; 27-06-14, 09:03 AM.Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
Those that killed her, were following the law.
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