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    #61
    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    Do you not think Cahill will be like Skrtel, only more annoying? He certainly gets caught out a lot more.
    I think Cahill and Skrtel could be a good partnership. I think alongside an aerially dominant CM Skrtel would really shine (as Carragher did with Hyypia, not that Cahill is that level mind).

    The one I find hard to imagine is Baines. Paying a huge premium for a fullback when you have other areas to worry about seems foolish to me.
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      #62
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      I think Cahill and Skrtel could be a good partnership. I think alongside an aerially dominant CM Skrtel would really shine (as Carragher did with Hyypia, not that Cahill is that level mind).

      The one I find hard to imagine is Baines. Paying a huge premium for a fullback when you have other areas to worry about seems foolish to me.
      I like Baines a lot and think he'd excel at LFC but, i agree with you that we should'nt pay exsessive fees for a left back when we need quality players elsewhere. If the bitters play hardball (which i expect they will), then enrique will do the same job just as well IMO

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        #63
        Originally posted by dww View Post
        I think Cahill and Skrtel could be a good partnership. I think alongside an aerially dominant CM Skrtel would really shine (as Carragher did with Hyypia, not that Cahill is that level mind).

        The one I find hard to imagine is Baines. Paying a huge premium for a fullback when you have other areas to worry about seems foolish to me.
        While I don't like spending very large fees on defenders, I think that of the players we need to sign the winger and full back are probably the most important. You can see those two playing almost every game given our current situation, the centre back and centre midfield positions while also important will probably rotated to some extent.
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          #64
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          I think Cahill and Skrtel could be a good partnership. I think alongside an aerially dominant CM Skrtel would really shine (as Carragher did with Hyypia, not that Cahill is that level mind).

          The one I find hard to imagine is Baines. Paying a huge premium for a fullback when you have other areas to worry about seems foolish to me.
          Enrique could be almost as good as Baines (some would say his defending is better than Baines) and would cost significantly less than Leighton. To me, he'd be a very shrewed buy and with Aurelio and Robinson we have LB situation sort it out for no more than 7-8m.
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            #65
            Acceptable Summer and Top 4 Finish IMO.

            New Keeper>Jones
            Dann>Soto
            Enrique>Koncheskey
            Adam>Poulsen
            Downing>Jovanovic
            Jarvis>Cole
            Wickham>Ngog

            Excellent Summer and Title Challenge IMO

            New Keeper>Jones
            Cahill>Soto
            Baines>Koncheskey
            Matuidi>Poulsen
            Young>Jovanovic
            Mata>Cole
            Augero>Ngog
            Forwards.......

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              #66
              Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
              Acceptable Summer and Top 4 Finish IMO.

              New Keeper>Jones
              Dann>Soto
              Enrique>Koncheskey
              Adam>Poulsen
              Downing>Jovanovic
              Jarvis>Cole
              Wickham>Ngog

              Excellent Summer and Title Challenge IMO

              New Keeper>Jones
              Cahill>Soto
              Baines>Koncheskey
              Matuidi>Poulsen
              Young>Jovanovic
              Mata>Cole
              Augero>Ngog
              I like you excellent summer much better

              To have those players we need around £110-120m net
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                #67
                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                I like you excellent summer much better

                To have those players we need around £110-120m net
                Now I don't expect us to spend that much, but I tend to think we'll see a happy enough compromise between the two lots of players I have mentioned.

                For instances, I know we've not been linked, but if Higuain could be got for about £15m cheaper than Augero, he's not a bad alternative, same for Benzema. Then say we signed Marveaux (FT) as one of the wingers and Mata as the other one, we'd still be pleased.

                There are loads of players out there good enough for our current team. I think a main reason for that is our lack of genuine wide players so in that sense even if Riera came back he'd be an iomprovement on the squad - and I've no doubt we'll be signing a better player than him.

                Another is Ngog has been so ineffective, that plenty of average to decent strikers could improve us in that regards. Whilst at LB we are at such a low that many would also improve that spot.

                I think which ever way we look at things we'll be a better team next year, and if you remeber we were about second best team in the prem from Kenny taking over, that gives an indication of how good we could be.
                Forwards.......

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  Now I don't expect us to spend that much, but I tend to think we'll see a happy enough compromise between the two lots of players I have mentioned.

                  For instances, I know we've not been linked, but if Higuain could be got for about £15m cheaper than Augero, he's not a bad alternative, same for Benzema. Then say we signed Marveaux (FT) as one of the wingers and Mata as the other one, we'd still be pleased.

                  There are loads of players out there good enough for our current team. I think a main reason for that is our lack of genuine wide players so in that sense even if Riera came back he'd be an iomprovement on the squad - and I've no doubt we'll be signing a better player than him.

                  Another is Ngog has been so ineffective, that plenty of average to decent strikers could improve us in that regards. Whilst at LB we are at such a low that many would also improve that spot.

                  I think which ever way we look at things we'll be a better team next year, and if you remeber we were about second best team in the prem from Kenny taking over, that gives an indication of how good we could be.

                  We will definitely be better team next year but that has to be relative to our competitors.

                  We have to improve to the point that we have to challenge them easily for top 4 spot and to do so I think we need to look into quality first, which for the most part will not be cheap.

                  I'd be happy if we can get the mix between those 2 groups that you mentioned:

                  Enrique
                  Cahill
                  Matuidi
                  Adam
                  Young
                  Mata

                  That lot would be about £70m give or take and as long as our budget is about £40m it could be possible with cash + player/our deadwood
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                    That lot would be about £70m give or take and as long as our budget is about £40m it could be possible with cash + player/our deadwood
                    I happen to think we have a larger budget than £40m, but we will only spend big on a player if we think that player is worth it in the short term and in the long run.

                    I hate to put a figure on it as it all comes down to player availability, but I could see us easily reaching the £70m mark.
                    Forwards.......

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dww View Post
                      I think Cahill and Skrtel could be a good partnership. I think alongside an aerially dominant CM Skrtel would really shine (as Carragher did with Hyypia, not that Cahill is that level mind).

                      The one I find hard to imagine is Baines. Paying a huge premium for a fullback when you have other areas to worry about seems foolish to me.
                      I wouldn't trust Cahill though, I think he is very error prone.
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                        I wouldn't trust Cahill though, I think he is very error prone.
                        He's a good defender, remember he'll have been under far more pressure defending for Bolton than say Chris Smalling at United - less game time and better players around him.

                        Bringing in new signings is about finding the right combinations and looking at how players will compliment the team, it amazes me how often you write players off with a "he's average comment or he's not good enough", it's about the right players for the right systems !

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                          He's a good defender, remember he'll have been under far more pressure defending for Bolton than say Chris Smalling at United - less game time and better players around him.

                          Bringing in new signings is about finding the right combinations and looking at how players will compliment the team, it amazes me how often you write players off with a "he's average comment or he's not good enough", it's about the right players for the right systems !
                          With Cahill it is about how often he is caught out and makes an error that leads to a goal.
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                            With Cahill it is about how often he is caught out and makes an error that leads to a goal.
                            but how often is this down to him covering other players and perhaps trying to do too much ?

                            Point is in a better side with better players and better coaching this is less likely to happen - as I said before it's about getting the right blend and what they can offer as players.

                            Look at the bigger picture.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                              but how often is this down to him covering other players and perhaps trying to do too much ?

                              Point is in a better side with better players and better coaching this is less likely to happen - as I said before it's about getting the right blend and what they can offer as players.

                              Look at the bigger picture.
                              The errors he has made haven't struck me as that.

                              Unless playing a higher line will cause him different problems.

                              Point is, he is not actually that good.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                                The errors he has made haven't struck me as that.

                                Unless playing a higher line will cause him different problems.

                                Point is, he is not actually that good.
                                In your opinion.

                                He's heavily linked to City, United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and us, must be rubbish!

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