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    Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
    Erm, no they didn't. I think only 2 of their new signings actually started the match.
    Correct, they had five on the bench.
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      Originally posted by Mostar View Post
      I think what Craig is saying that if they appeal he may be still available for the game on Sunday and then serve his suspension the following week or after, not that they could win the appeal.

      Basically buying the time approach.
      I guess that could be a possibility, I thought appeals against red cards were dealt with very quickly though (although I could be wrong) and it's FA charges that take a while to be dealt with, hence Song might be available. I guess it's too early in the season to judge the way things will work this year...

      In appealing don't they risk a longer ban? If so they would be stupid to appeal because IMO this is cut and dry, if the FA reduce the ban for this then they will open the floodgates for appeals.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
        I guess that could be a possibility, I thought appeals against red cards were dealt with very quickly though (although I could be wrong) and it's FA charges that take a while to be dealt with, hence Song might be available. I guess it's too early in the season to judge the way things will work this year...

        In appealing don't they risk a longer ban? If so they would be stupid to appeal because IMO this is cut and dry, if the FA reduce the ban for this then they will open the floodgates for appeals.
        I think that's definitely true, as the red card was a straightforward decision (like the one for Kieran Richardson SHOULD have been ), so i'm sure if Arsenal appealed, it would be considered a frivolous appeal and as such, result in probably a 4 game ban. That's the one thing which makes you think Wenger wont appeal it.

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          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          I guess that could be a possibility, I thought appeals against red cards were dealt with very quickly though (although I could be wrong) and it's FA charges that take a while to be dealt with, hence Song might be available. I guess it's too early in the season to judge the way things will work this year...

          In appealing don't they risk a longer ban? If so they would be stupid to appeal because IMO this is cut and dry, if the FA reduce the ban for this then they will open the floodgates for appeals.
          The idea a couple of seasons ago was for bans to take effect immediately and any "frivolous" appeals, designed to delay the ban in the way Craig suggests, can be punished like you say.

          Although the FA aren't known for consistency so anything might happen.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
            I guess that could be a possibility, I thought appeals against red cards were dealt with very quickly though (although I could be wrong) and it's FA charges that take a while to be dealt with, hence Song might be available. I guess it's too early in the season to judge the way things will work this year...

            In appealing don't they risk a longer ban? If so they would be stupid to appeal because IMO this is cut and dry, if the FA reduce the ban for this then they will open the floodgates for appeals.
            Good point they may want to review the entire incident from the start to the finish cause if Barton didn't "pick up" Gervinho the way he did nothing would've probably happened and the slap in the face I am not so sure he did that deliberately either.

            Also I was under the impression (I could be wrong) that he doesn't need to start his suspension immediately
            Last edited by Mostar; 14-08-11, 01:29 PM.
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              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
              I think that's definitely true, as the red card was a straightforward decision (like the one for Kieran Richardson SHOULD have been ), so i'm sure if Arsenal appealed, it would be considered a frivolous appeal and as such, result in probably a 4 game ban. That's the one thing which makes you think Wenger wont appeal it.


              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
              The idea a couple of seasons ago was for bans to take effect immediately and any "frivolous" appeals, designed to delay the ban in the way Craig suggests, can be punished like you say.

              Although the FA aren't known for consistency so anything might happen.
              That's certainly true
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                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                Also I was under the impression (I could be wrong) that he doesn't need to start his suspension immediately
                I think it's automatic and immediate unless the club appeal.
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  I think it's automatic unless the club appeal.
                  I thought the same
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                    Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                    Good point they may want to review the entire incident from the start to the finish cause if Barton didn't "pick up" Gervinho the way he did nothing would've probably happened and the slap in the face I am not so sure he did that deliberately either.

                    Also I was under the impression (I could be wrong) that he doesn't need to start his suspension immediately
                    You can't look at things like that though, all they can do now IMO is decide that Barton should receive additional punishment if they feel the referee didn't see him pick Gervinho up (which I supect is what will probably happen)

                    I think the ban is now immediate, a few years ago it too a week or so to come through, but they changed that a few years ago.
                    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                      You can't look at things like that though, all they can do now IMO is decide that Barton should receive additional punishment if they feel the referee didn't see him pick Gervinho up (which I supect is what will probably happen)
                      My point was that they may appeal with similar type of reasoning in mind with intentions of buying time not to reverse the previous decision but I guess there is always the possibility that 2-game ban could be increased as result of the appeal.

                      We'll have to wait until Monday to know for sure.
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                        Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                        My point was that they may appeal with similar type of reasoning in mind with intentions of buying time not to reverse the previous decision but I guess there is always the possibility that 2-game ban could be increased as result of the appeal.

                        We'll have to wait until Monday to know for sure.
                        I know what you mean but it would seem crazy to me for them to risk it.


                        Having said that it does appear Wenger is cracking up so I guess anything could happen
                        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                          Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                          Glen Chester Johnson with the Bentley.

                          Top, top stalking.

                          Aqualani car sharing? Well, petrol prices are high.
                          I wouldn't be surprised if Aquilani didn't have a driving license. There is no way he could pass the number plate test with his eyes.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            by neiljonesecho
                            Time for a bone fide fact. The attendance at Liv v Sun on Saturday was 45,018 - the highest at Anfield for more than 25 years! #lfc
                            I wondered similar myself, can't remember the last time we got over 45,000.

                            So how come?
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                              Not telling you.

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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                I wondered similar myself, can't remember the last time we got over 45,000.

                                So how come?
                                Weird, as there were several empty seats on the front row.
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