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    interesting buried in an article about noel white it today's telegraph:

    Before the White problem arose, the main item on the board meeting agenda was discussion of the take-over of the club. This has been a much longer-running saga, having gone on for two years, involving half-a-dozen potential bidders ranging from a former Thai Prime Minister to Steve Morgan, the founder of the Redrow house building firm. White was keen on the Morgan bid and would have liked David Moores, the chairman, to do a deal with him, but was not able to persuade him to do so.

    Although five bidders are in the ring, only two are considered serious – Dubai Holdings and George Gillett Jnr, the American owner of the Montreal Canadiens National Hockey League team and a former owner of the Harlem Globetrotters, the famous basketball team. Dubai have returned to the fray having walked off after an initial interest two years ago.

    Last week Rick Parry, the Liverpool chief executive, was in Dubai and, though the reason given for his visit was that it was half-term and he was having a family holiday, I am told there was contact with Muhammad Gergaui, the man who runs Dubai Holdings and also the office of the ruler of Dubai, Dubai Holdings being effectively a state-owned company.

    One of the issues for discussion would have been the degree of control Dubai want, whether they would want to buy the whole club or let Moores continue as chairman with a smaller shareholding and with the present management team, led by Parry, remaining in place.


    I am told Gillett would want to buy the whole club, lock, stock and barrel.

    I understand the bidders have been given limited due diligence but not the exclusive, extensive look at the books, in particular the contracts of players and the manager, that they would want before committing themselves to buying the club.

    So far the sticking point has been the price. Moores, who owns 51 per cent, wants £6,000 a share but I am told neither bidder would want to pay more than £4,000 a share.

    At £6,000 a share, the share value of Liverpool alone would be £210 million, 3½ times what Aston Villa were recently sold for. Should he sell his entire holding Moores could make a profit of £97 million, not far short of the money Martin Edwards made from his share sales at Manchester United.

    But in addition to this, Liverpool have debts of around £80 million. Add to this the money necessary for investment in the team, as well as the £200 million the club need for their new stadium, and it can be expected that any one taking them over would be looking to fund around £500 million.

    This would mean Liverpool's total value is 10 times what Everton are worth, and even given the fact that their playing record is far superior and that they won the Champions League two years ago, the feeling among City experts is that is far too steep a price.

    #2
    Is it just me or does that last sentence not make any sense at all?
    Thomas Hicks Senior

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      #3
      Cheers Tom, not sure what this last bit means though.

      Originally posted by Tom
      This would mean Liverpool's total value is 10 times what Everton are worth, and even given the fact that their playing record is far superior and that they won the Champions League two years ago, the feeling among City experts is that is far too steep a price.
      Originally posted by Gordon Brown
      (1995)
      "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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        #4
        Originally posted by Morphorino
        Is it just me or does that last sentence not make any sense at all?

        Snap!
        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
        (1995)
        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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          #5
          I think an "it" is missing....

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            #6
            But I still don't get it, why mention supposedly being worth 10 times more than Everton, and then trying to reason why we aren't using our champs league win in the same sentence.
            Thomas Hicks Senior

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              #7
              Originally posted by Tom
              interesting buried in an article about noel white it today's telegraph:

              Before the White problem arose, the main item on the board meeting agenda was discussion of the take-over of the club. This has been a much longer-running saga, having gone on for two years, involving half-a-dozen potential bidders ranging from a former Thai Prime Minister to Steve Morgan, the founder of the Redrow house building firm. White was keen on the Morgan bid and would have liked David Moores, the chairman, to do a deal with him, but was not able to persuade him to do so.

              Although five bidders are in the ring, only two are considered serious – Dubai Holdings and George Gillett Jnr, the American owner of the Montreal Canadiens National Hockey League team and a former owner of the Harlem Globetrotters, the famous basketball team. Dubai have returned to the fray having walked off after an initial interest two years ago.

              Last week Rick Parry, the Liverpool chief executive, was in Dubai and, though the reason given for his visit was that it was half-term and he was having a family holiday, I am told there was contact with Muhammad Gergaui, the man who runs Dubai Holdings and also the office of the ruler of Dubai, Dubai Holdings being effectively a state-owned company.

              One of the issues for discussion would have been the degree of control Dubai want, whether they would want to buy the whole club or let Moores continue as chairman with a smaller shareholding and with the present management team, led by Parry, remaining in place.


              I am told Gillett would want to buy the whole club, lock, stock and barrel.

              I understand the bidders have been given limited due diligence but not the exclusive, extensive look at the books, in particular the contracts of players and the manager, that they would want before committing themselves to buying the club.

              So far the sticking point has been the price. Moores, who owns 51 per cent, wants £6,000 a share but I am told neither bidder would want to pay more than £4,000 a share.

              At £6,000 a share, the share value of Liverpool alone would be £210 million, 3½ times what Aston Villa were recently sold for. Should he sell his entire holding Moores could make a profit of £97 million, not far short of the money Martin Edwards made from his share sales at Manchester United.

              But in addition to this, Liverpool have debts of around £80 million. Add to this the money necessary for investment in the team, as well as the £200 million the club need for their new stadium, and it can be expected that any one taking them over would be looking to fund around £500 million.

              This would mean Liverpool's total value is 10 times what Everton are worth, and even given the fact that their playing record is far superior and that they won the Champions League two years ago, the feeling among City experts is that is far too steep a price.
              thanks tom. missed that one.

              i'd have thought we are worth at least 100 times more than everton....

              interesting that the Dubai deal does not necessarily mean moores going. wonder how much money that would actually put in the coffers, bearing in mind we need 280m just to clear our current expenditure
              "At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques"

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                #8
                £6000 a share!!!???!
                Play the Man of the Match game in the sticky thread!


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                  #9
                  £6000 is way over the top, especially when you consider they currently sell for about £4000. Moores has never put any of his own money into the club without getting paid handsomely for it. He bought his shares for £12M and now look at how much he will make. Best interests of Liverpool at heart maybe, but he is also looking after himself. Why can't he just help us out by selling for market value?

                  Sickening if true - but it is his shares he can demand what he likes I suppose.

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                    #10
                    Smacks of Martin Edwards sellout over at old toilet.
                    It's my job to handle life and death situations on a daily basis. It's what I do, and I'm very good at it.

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                      #11
                      Its a strange one alright.
                      I guess what Parry is doing is valuing the club at its potential worth rather than what it is actually worth. Would have thought a little over £4000 a shar would have been a fair price, but what do i know. Thats not my area.
                      Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                      'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                      "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                      * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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