Liverpool vs Swansea post match thread

[Chris]

They were all at sea at times but you can't really argue with 225 minutes (2 and a half games) since Carra came out of the side and not one goal conceded.

Agreed, they should be our 2 for now, would just change Johnson for Kelly.

[Craig_H]

Agreed, they should be our 2 for now, would just change Johnson for Kelly.

Totally agree with that, Kelly's hardly put a foot wrong and Johnson's return to the side has been sloppy to say the least.

I actually think, much as we rate Kelly, we underrate him a bit. He's genuinely brilliant already IMO. And RB is apparently not even his natural position. He has all the potential in the world.

[Shaggy]

Agreed, they should be our 2 for now, would just change Johnson for Kelly.

Totally agree with that, Kelly's hardly put a foot wrong and Johnson's return to the side has been sloppy to say the least.

I actually think, much as we rate Kelly, we underrate him a bit. He's genuinely brilliant already IMO. And RB is apparently not even his natural position. He has all the potential in the world.

Don't shoot the messenger, just passing on what I saw, but that LFC5Times Twitter account - endorsed by Tony Barrett - claimed the other day Kelly has a "bad attitude". When asked if serious he replied "very serious". Which seems really strange to me.

[Chris]

It'd be weird if he's a bad boy, I've got him in the geek club with Henderson and Lucas! Not that I know any of them of course but he just seems really mild mannered, not aggressive etc.

[Shaggy]

It'd be weird if he's a bad boy, I've got him in the geek club with Henderson and Lucas! Not that I know any of them of course but he just seems really mild mannered, not aggressive etc.

Aye, same. I tried to make it make sense and there's been one or two curious decisions re Kelly this season, which I put down to us being careful with him after his injuries.

Flanagan was preferred on the first day, and he's not been on the bench a handful of times when you'd have expected him to be at least a sub.

[Roboklopp]

Certainly doesnt come across that way. Be a real shame.

[danperkins]

Would be shocked if Kelly had a bad attitude. Doesn't it come across like that at awhile. To me he seems mild mannered and a determined lad, but i suppose what do any of us know. Regardless Kelly over Johnson every time

[Mostar]

Would be shocked if Kelly had a bad attitude. Doesn't it come across like that at awhile. To me he seems mild mannered and a determined lad, but i suppose what do any of us know. Regardless Kelly over Johnson every time

Why though?

He was solid since he returned, didn't do anything wrong, 2 clean sheets since he entered the rotation and he gives us way more offensive balance on the right, which is clearly not Kelly's strength.

I like Kelly too just to make it perfectly clear but I don't think the decision to start GJ or MK is our problem.

Weak midfield and the lack of a top notch goal scorer are.

[Neil Young]

and the season could be "over" after 13. Every game counts.

So what? There'll be another season. Stop being so overdramatic.

People say "I don't know why Kenny is doing this or that or whatever". "Why did he change from last season's style of play?" "Why is Downing preferred to Maxi?" Well I don't know the answers any more than anyone else. Clearly whatever he might be attempting isn't bearing much fruit yet. As I mentioned before, I had my reservations before he was appointed and those doubts have not been dispelled. But I don't see that as a reason to start what amounts to a campaign to put additional pressure on him or the owners.

Just because we don't know what he's trying to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know. Yet your stance is predicated entirely on the belief that if you don't see the plan then there isn't one. I don't know if that's arrogant or just self-absorbed. It might even be both.

I realise this probably means I'm dim or naive or hopelessly blind to his faults but I prefer to assume Dalglish has a plan. Whether it will work or not time will tell, providing he is given enough of it by the internet terrorists and other self-appointed judges of the club's greatest player and once successful manager.

If he fails, as well he might, then he fails. And someone else will have to take it on.

[Nicey]

So what? There'll be another season. Stop being so overdramatic.

People say "I don't know why Kenny is doing this or that or whatever". "Why did he change from last season's style of play?" "Why is Downing preferred to Maxi?" Well I don't know the answers any more than anyone else. Clearly whatever he might be attempting isn't bearing much fruit yet. As I mentioned before, I had my reservations before he was appointed and those doubts have not been dispelled. But I don't see that as a reason to start what amounts to a campaign to put additional pressure on him or the owners.

Just because we don't know what he's trying to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know. Yet your stance is predicated entirely on the belief that if you don't see the plan then there isn't one. I don't know if that's arrogant or just self-absorbed. It might even be both.

I realise this probably means I'm dim or naive or hopelessly blind to his faults but I prefer to assume Dalglish has a plan. Whether it will work or not time will tell, providing he is given enough of it by the internet terrorists and other self-appointed judges of the club's greatest player and once successful manager.

If he fails, as well he might, then he fails. And someone else will have to take it on.

I like this post

[danperkins]

Why though?

He was solid since he returned, didn't do anything wrong, 2 clean sheets since he entered the rotation and he gives us way more offensive balance on the right, which is clearly not Kelly's strength.

I like Kelly too just to make it perfectly clear but I don't think the decision to start GJ or MK is our problem.

Weak midfield and the lack of a top notch goal scorer are.

Because i think Kelly is a better player than Johnson. IMO Johnson is not a good defender, horrible positional sense and turns like a bus. Kelly may not be as potent going forward but i prefer my defenders to defend first and foremost, everything else after that IMO is a bonus.

And IMO i think the clean sheets in the last 2 games has got to do with playing weak opposition, CB pairing doing well together,luck and Carra not being in the starting 11.

I agree it's not a priority issue but IMO Kelly should a starter no question. Johnson will be a good squad player.

[Nicey]

Johnson has been consistently improving and this campaign when he has played has looking a lot more solid positionally

[danperkins]

So what? There'll be another season. Stop being so overdramatic.

People say "I don't know why Kenny is doing this or that or whatever". "Why did he change from last season's style of play?" "Why is Downing preferred to Maxi?" Well I don't know the answers any more than anyone else. Clearly whatever he might be attempting isn't bearing much fruit yet. As I mentioned before, I had my reservations before he was appointed and those doubts have not been dispelled. But I don't see that as a reason to start what amounts to a campaign to put additional pressure on him or the owners.

Just because we don't know what he's trying to do it doesn't mean he doesn't know. Yet your stance is predicated entirely on the belief that if you don't see the plan then there isn't one. I don't know if that's arrogant or just self-absorbed. It might even be both.

I realise this probably means I'm dim or naive or hopelessly blind to his faults but I prefer to assume Dalglish has a plan. Whether it will work or not time will tell, providing he is given enough of it by the internet terrorists and other self-appointed judges of the club's greatest player and once successful manager.

[danperkins]

Johnson has been consistently improving and this campaign when he has played has looking a lot more solid positionally

For me, he has only played 3 games and all those games have been against weak sides offensively.

IMO there is no comparison between Johnson & Kelly when it comes to defending. But Glen does provide a good squad option no doubt.

[Craig_H]

Don't shoot the messenger, just passing on what I saw, but that LFC5Times Twitter account - endorsed by Tony Barrett - claimed the other day Kelly has a "bad attitude". When asked if serious he replied "very serious". Which seems really strange to me.

Well that would be just typical

He's been superb since he came into the side and based on performances, he's first choice RB for me.

Seemed too good to be true...