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    Jonathan Wilson on Gerrard

    The Question: is Steven Gerrard good for Liverpool?

    It seems almost heretical to say it, but could it be that Liverpool's captain Steven Gerrard is not the solution but the problem?


    When Steven Gerrard came off the bench against Newcastle United on 30 December and transformed a 1-1 draw into a 3-1 win, the assumption was that, with their talisman back after an ankle injury, Liverpool would kick on. That win took them to fifth and with Chelsea and Arsenal faltering, Newcastle seemingly beginning to feel the effects of their comparatively slender squad and Tottenham being Tottenham, a challenge for Champions League qualification, perhaps even third place, seemed probable.


    Liverpool have won only two of their 13 league games since then. Going into Tuesday's game against Blackburn Rovers they lie eighth, level on points with Fulham and Norwich City, the two sides below them, and risk finishing outside the top eight for the first time since they returned to the top flight in 1962. They need 15 points from the six games that remain to avoid their worst points tally in a 20-team Premier League (in 2005, a failure that was mitigated by their European Cup win that year).


    A Carling Cup and possible FA Cup, of course, provide some mitigation – and it is actually slightly depressing that league position apparently means so much more than trophies – but it is still reasonable to ask what on earth has gone wrong since the turn of the year. Take a cohesive team, add Gerrard, and the result has been a shambles.


    It seems almost heretical to say it, but could it be that Gerrard is not the solution but the problem; that, fine player though he is, he has destroyed the balance of the side? When Gerrard has not started this season, Liverpool have won 48% of games played; when he has started, that drops to 9%.


    In the 11 games Gerrard has started, Liverpool have scored an average of 1.00 goal per game while conceding 1.36; without him it is goals for 1.24, goals against 0.90. They have taken 1.67 points per game without him, just 0.73 with. Project that over a season: without Gerrard, Liverpool would get 63 points, which last season would have seen them finish fifth; with Gerrard, they would get 28, certain relegation form.


    Those figures include six games in which Gerrard has come off the bench. In two of those, against Everton away in October and against Newcastle, he helped turn draws into wins. In the other four, the result has remained unchanged, although Manchester City did increase a 2-0 lead to 3-0.


    It was apparent even under Rafael Benítez that Gerrard was at his best when he could be let off the leash, when the situation was so desperate that he could be released from responsibility and told simply to swash buckles and storm barns all over the pitch – as he did against Olympiakos in December 2004, against Milan in the 2005 European Cup final and against West Ham in the FA Cup final the following year. In that regard, he fitted perfectly the Roy of the Rovers template and, as Scott Murray argued in The Blizzard (a piece reproduced here), there has been no figure so pernicious in English football history as Roy Race.



    "While little schemers from Italy dreamt of becoming fantasistas, conducting their team-mates to victory from the centre of the park, while South American youths honed their skills and picked up a few street-smarts in the dusty favelas, hoping to put it all together in a gambeta," he wrote, "thanks to Roy Race, English children spent their formative years sat on their arses being taught a very strange lesson: it doesn't really matter what you do for 89 minutes because a superhero will turn up eventually, welt the ball into the net, and you can all go home with your cups and medals.

    "Such was the sermon preached from the Melchester pulpit. In the big games, Rovers were perfectly happy to wing it, knowing Racey would amble along to the rescue at some point. As a result, nobody would bother preparing for anything. More often than not, Melchester would yawn on to the pitch, and end up a goal or two down not long after kick-off. A Race-inspired comeback was nearly always on the cards."



    Nobody ever mentions it but in terms of control, Liverpool's best performance in their 2004-05 run in the Champions League was the 0-0 draw at Juventus, where Gerrard was absent and Liverpool's midfield comprised Xabi Alonso, Igor Biscan and Antonio Núñez.


    Gerrard's penchant for Hollywood passes and his tactical indiscipline are well-known, but the Opta statistics present a more nuanced picture. Shots on target and shots to goal are virtually unchanged with and without Gerrard while possession (55.22% to 56.50%) and pass completion (80.79% to 81.06%) improve marginally with him in the side.

    Cross completion drops from 21.21% to 15.19% when Gerrard comes into the side, while the number of tackles won falls from 75.49% to 71.90%. That latter figure perhaps hints at what he does in terms of disrupting the shape of the midfield. That said, the injury to Lucas Leiva who, remarkably, has still made more tackles than anybody else in the Liverpool squad this season despite having been injured since November, partly accounts for that fall-off and has clearly been a significant factor in Liverpool's stumble.


    But what is really telling is the impact Gerrard has on other players. All six of Charlie Adam's assists and both his goals have come when Gerrard has not started. Jordan Henderson's tackle success rate drops from 92.59% when Gerrard does not start to only 63.64% when he does. Jay Spearing wins 60.71% of duels when Gerrard does not start; only 54.76% when he does. When Gerrard is there, they have to adjust to different roles and, so far, that seems to have had a detrimental effect.


    The phenomenon of a big player dwarfing those around him, particularly when, as in the case of Henderson and Adam, they are low on confidence, is well-known. The tendency, understandably, is to give the ball to the star, to try to feed him at every opportunity: Cesc Fábregas described it happening at Arsenal in Thierry Henry's last full season, while an overreliance on Samuel Eto'o has clearly hampered Cameroon. Gerrard offers an excuse, an easy way for his team-mates to dodge responsibility.


    It is not that he is a bad player, far from it – and Lucas's absence is almost certainly a bigger reason for Liverpool's slide than Gerrard's return – but it could be that his impact is detrimental. That is the problem with building up individuals in football: no matter how gifted he is, it is never just about one man.



    Kind of what I have felt for some time, Rafa knew exactly how to play Gerrard, too bad Gerrard has no idea himself.
    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

    #2
    Its a nonsence really. Rafa gave everyone a crystal clear blueprint on how to use Gerrard if you want him in the team and every manager he's had at club and international level since has completely dismissed it to both Gerrard's and the clubs detriment.

    For me that has to be the most frustrating thing about watching us of late. Of the front he offers exactly what we've missed in the final third but from a more withdrawn position he provides nowhere even close to what we need.
    A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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      #3
      Play him on the right ... hes the best ****ing winger at the club and has been for ever
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        #4
        Hes been playing further forward the last half dozen games and it still hasnt helped

        Other than the hattrick he scored against the Peoples Club
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          #5
          Good article and one in which I agree with many of the points.

          We need to get the best out of Gerrard however we don't, and haven't since Benitez left.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            Hes been playing further forward the last half dozen games and it still hasnt helped

            Other than the hattrick he scored against the Peoples Club
            I think his starting position is still a bit deep, same problem for our forwards right now.
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              #7
              /Andy Grey, Richard Key & Jamie Redknapp/ Gerrard is wasted up top, he should be at CM where he can control the game. /Andy Grey, Richard Key & Jamie Redknapp/
              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                #8
                Horrendous piece.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                  Jordan Henderson's tackle success rate drops from 92.59% when Gerrard does not start to only 63.64% when he does.
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                    #10
                    those ******s would not know there arse from there elbows ... Stevie has been most effective from two positons ... he is soo ****ing talented he could probably play in Goal and give Pepe a run for his money .. but his best most dangerous positions are RM / RW and AM / ST

                    Stick him out on the right, Downing on the Left and put ****ing Carroll up front, get the ball to him and wallla goals should follow
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                      #11
                      I think it would only be fair to look at Gerrard's contribution alongside Lucas if we're going to look at all the midfield combinations.

                      But then that hasn't been possible this season. A season which has seen Gerrard return from surgery, in and then out because of an infection and then playing to match fitness.

                      The article raises some interesting points, but the stats mentioned - for me - are a little skewered.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MrNice View Post
                        those ******s would not know there arse from there elbows ... Stevie has been most effective from two positons ... he is soo ****ing talented he could probably play in Goal and give Pepe a run for his money .. but his best most dangerous positions are RM / RW and AM / ST

                        Stick him out on the right, Downing on the Left and put ****ing Carroll up front, get the ball to him and wallla goals should follow
                        I agree, but the problem with that Downing and Carroll are substandard players for our ambitions.

                        Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                        I think it would only be fair to look at Gerrard's contribution alongside Lucas if we're going to look at all the midfield combinations.

                        But then that hasn't been possible this season. A season which has seen Gerrard return from surgery, in and then out because of an infection and then playing to match fitness.

                        The article raises some interesting points, but the stats mentioned - for me - are a little skewered.
                        I think without doubt Gerrard is not disciplined enough to be a CM, he offers so much more as an attacking player.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                          I think without doubt Gerrard is not disciplined enough to be a CM, he offers so much more as an attacking player.
                          This just isn't true. He's better without the defensive responsibility sure but this man has bossed the best teams from a central two before. Including a CL semi final where an away goal would have sent us out.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chris View Post
                            This just isn't true. He's better without the defensive responsibility sure but this man has bossed the best teams from a central two before. Including a CL semi final where an away goal would have sent us out.
                            The Chelsea game?

                            1 Jerzy Dudek
                            3 Steve Finnan
                            4 Sami Hyypia
                            6 John Arne Riise
                            21 Djimi Traore
                            23 Jamie Carragher
                            8 Steven Gerrard
                            10 Luis Garcia
                            16 Dietmar Hamann
                            25 Igor Biscan
                            5 Milan Baros

                            Are you sure he played in a central two? I can't remember the formation but looking at the starting eleven there's Hamann and Biscan starting.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rich View Post
                              The Chelsea game?

                              1 Jerzy Dudek
                              3 Steve Finnan
                              4 Sami Hyypia
                              6 John Arne Riise
                              21 Djimi Traore
                              23 Jamie Carragher
                              8 Steven Gerrard
                              10 Luis Garcia
                              16 Dietmar Hamann
                              25 Igor Biscan
                              5 Milan Baros

                              Are you sure he played in a central two? I can't remember the formation but looking at the starting eleven there's Hamann and Biscan starting.
                              You are looking at the wrong Chelsea game.

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