New manager thread

[vonk]

I'm not sure it'll be Hodgson all over again. I dont want either but think any Hodgson comparisons are unfair, they both have vastly different styles of playing which players and fans prefer to Hodgson's dross aswell.

Exactly, anyone who thinks appointing Rodgers or Martinez would be same as appointing Hodgson needs to start watching football.

[Shaggy]

Who?

Me or this thread?

Haha not you FFS! Your post wasn't there when I posted.

I just mean the whole soap opera mate.

[vonk]

When this manager is appointed, there will have to be some acceptance of reality which currently there doesn't seem to be a lot of.

We are a mid table team and we are nowhere near the Champions League. Therefore we are not going to attract Mourinho, Hiddink, De Boer, Guardiola, Cappello, top managers who will only go to the top current clubs. We are attracting young up and coming managers and thats the way the owners want it. It will mean instant success is unlikely but possible in a few years. The top 4 will be a huge ask and realistically unlikely unless we can overhaul Arsenal and Spurs.

When it's a young manager and not Rafa, we are just going to have to accept it, accept that this is the way it is, accept a transition period and get behind the manager, all pushing in the same direction. If the fans react badly to the next appointment it will get the club nowhere. It will be more damaging than the appointment itself.

[Roboklopp]

I think everyone will try get behind the new manager, however underwhelming. It's just if results start not to pick up that people will revert to the old questions- are they good/experienced enough, does the DoF model work, was sacking Kenny/ not bringing Rafa back right? That's the problem not bringing someone with a large reputation will bring.

[mick the click]

Getting boring now.

Agreed.

There was a mildly diverting hiatus this afternoon in the Dalglish thread where Darkon squirmed as he was slowly Kurtangled - or should it be Darkoned. Alex deserves a, honorary mention too.

Bit of a pisser that hollowman couldn't prolong it for a few more squirms.

Starts here towards the bottom.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=73785&page=129

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Are you considering saying something funny?

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Originally Posted by Hollowman View Post
Funny how? I mean, what's funny about it?

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Originally Posted by Darkon View Post
aaww, I take that as a no, was just looking forward to it


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Let me understand this, because you know, maybe it's me. I'm a little ****ed up maybe, but funny how? I mean, funny like a clown? I'm here to ****ing amuse you? To make you laugh? What do you mean funny? Funny how?


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Uhm, are we talking on the same level here? It was just a continuation of the KD Lang comment and you asking if it's not a comedy forum, a small joke nothing more. Or are you messing with me now?, so hard to get the tone of a post sometimes.


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You said it. How do I know? You said be funny. How the **** am I funny? What the **** is so funny? Tell me.


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Hollow is defiantly going to get a holiday. Defiantly.

























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I know the film thread is full of drivelled troglodytes, but am I to believe that not one of you cunts has ever seen Goodfellas?






Cheered me up anyway.


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[Tee]

When this manager is appointed, there will have to be some acceptance of reality which currently there doesn't seem to be a lot of.

We are a mid table team and we are nowhere near the Champions League. Therefore we are not going to attract Mourinho, Hiddink, De Boer, Guardiola, Cappello, top managers who will only go to the top current clubs. We are attracting young up and coming managers and thats the way the owners want it. It will mean instant success is unlikely but possible in a few years. The top 4 will be a huge ask and realistically unlikely unless we can overhaul Arsenal and Spurs.

When it's a young manager and not Rafa, we are just going to have to accept it, accept that this is the way it is, accept a transition period and get behind the manager, all pushing in the same direction. If the fans react badly to the next appointment it will get the club nowhere. It will be more damaging than the appointment itself.

Fans reaction being worse than the appointment itself? Fans pay their money week in and week out, so they have every right to their opinions.

As for us being a midtable team nowhere near the CL, well add one or two quality players and there is no reason why we cannot challenge again.

You may be looking at things realistically in your mind, but IMO it is a very defeatist attitude.

Yes, we need to get behind whoever takes over, but at the same time we must not watch in silence and let the owners take us back even further. With the right appointment we can very quickly get back on track, but with someone like Rodgers or Martinez it is a massive gamble, one I don't think we can afford to take.

[BrooklynRed]

What type of person, someone who claims to support the club, spends time writing up a managerial rumor article with absolutely no idea what they are talking about? I've seen blogs all over the place claiming inside information about the process and it's AMAZING to me that anyone would waste the time when they know they have utterly no information. Pathetic. How is that helping anything?

[Shanks]

Both are massively underwhelming though Chris.

Oh give it a rest...

Who is overwhelming then FFS!..

[topscorer]

When this manager is appointed, there will have to be some acceptance of reality which currently there doesn't seem to be a lot of.

We are a mid table team and we are nowhere near the Champions League. Therefore we are not going to attract Mourinho, Hiddink, De Boer, Guardiola, Cappello, top managers who will only go to the top current clubs. We are attracting young up and coming managers and thats the way the owners want it. It will mean instant success is unlikely but possible in a few years. The top 4 will be a huge ask and realistically unlikely unless we can overhaul Arsenal and Spurs.

When it's a young manager and not Rafa, we are just going to have to accept it, accept that this is the way it is, accept a transition period and get behind the manager, all pushing in the same direction. If the fans react badly to the next appointment it will get the club nowhere. It will be more damaging than the appointment itself.

We aren't a mid table team because we have a lot more money than mid table teams like Aston Villa and Everton.

Managers will be attracted to us because despite our position the world wide support we have creates a lot of money for the club so with the right manager that believes in himself and that the players and supporters believe in we can quickly get back into the top 4 and then further.

[vonk]

We aren't a mid table team because we have a lot more money than mid table teams like Aston Villa and Everton.

Managers will be attracted to us because despite our position the world wide support we have creates a lot of money for the club so with the right manager that believes in himself and that the players and supporters believe in we can quickly get back into the top 4 and then further.

We are a mid table team at the moment, the table doesn't lie. We may be able to get there in the future, but it's going to take time and money. We are not going to get a big time manager at this point and people should get used to the idea of a young manager like Martinez and a considerable rebuilding job. Getting on the managers back after a series of losses is a bad move. We can't demand instant success, it's not realistic. I can see the Rafapologists giving the new man about 6 months before they are on his back demanding Rafa be reinstated. That's just wrong.

[red g]

We aren't a mid table team because we have a lot more money than mid table teams like Aston Villa and Everton.

Managers will be attracted to us because despite our position the world wide support we have creates a lot of money for the club so with the right manager that believes in himself and that the players and supporters believe in we can quickly get back into the top 4 and then further.

[colin85]

I don't think I've seen a Twitter post on here for a while, what's going on with the ITK people?

[vonk]

Fans reaction being worse than the appointment itself? Fans pay their money week in and week out, so they have every right to their opinions.

As for us being a midtable team nowhere near the CL, well add one or two quality players and there is no reason why we cannot challenge again.

You may be looking at things realistically in your mind, but IMO it is a very defeatist attitude.

Yes, we need to get behind whoever takes over, but at the same time we must not watch in silence and let the owners take us back even further. With the right appointment we can very quickly get back on track, but with someone like Rodgers or Martinez it is a massive gamble, one I don't think we can afford to take.

You say defeatist, I say realistic. Every manager is a gamble. We have no idea how it will work, but I'd be interested to know who you think we should appoint. And make it somewhat realistic....

[vonk]

Independent.co.uk

Liverpool's search for a new manager narrowed last night, as Andre Villas-Boas fell out of the running.

The club felt that the former Chelsea manager was enough of a prospect that they made discreet contact with his representatives before Kenny Dalglish's dismissal. But Liverpool now appear to have decided that the 34-year-old is not a candidate.

Villas-Boas's agent, Carlos Gonçalves, created the impression yesterday that his client had a number of clubs seeking his services, though his ill-fated nine-month spell at Stamford Bridge makes appointing him a calculated risk and there appear to be fewer offers on the table than Gonçalves suggested.

The list of possible successors to Dalglish still includes Wigan Athletic's Roberto Martinez, who is on holiday in the Caribbean, and there is also the prospect of Fenway Sports Group going back to Brendan Rodgers of Swansea City, who rejected an initial approach because of the number of candidates being considered. Rodgers said last Friday that he was rejecting "the current opportunity".

Louis van Gaal is a prime contender for a new sporting director's role, though the Dutch view is that the 60-year-old former Ajax and Netherlands coach, who has been out of work since he was sacked by Bayern Munich 13 months ago, would prefer the manager's job.

The prospect of Rafael Benitez returning seems to be very remote, despite the launch of an online "#talktorafa" campaign by fans. A source close to the Spaniard has indicated that Benitez is willing to prove himself again at Liverpool, where he won the Champions League seven years ago. The allure of Liverpool remains greater than any other job available, in Benitez's mind.

Villas-Boas, who is weighing up the Roma position vacated by Luis Enrique, wants a top managerial position. He has always been interested by Liverpool – despite saying on Sunday that he was "still choosing the right project and that decision will take the necessary time".

Yesterday, Gonçalves said: "We are looking for a strong, solid and long-term project. Villas-Boas would like to coach under these conditions but if it's not possible he won't have a problem to stay inactive for now. I don't confirm or deny contacts with specific clubs. We are interested to know the perspective and the length of the contract. Liverpool? Once more, I just say that we want a strong and competitive club."

It is understood that Liverpool want to make any directorial appointments before securing a new manager, to stop Dalglish's successor feeling undermined. Of the timeframe for appointing a manager, the managing director, Ian Ayre, said last week: "We are all aware that you want to be active in the transfer market and have that manager back looking at his players and his squad. You certainly would want to have someone in place for when the players are coming back for pre-season, which is July."

[mick the click]

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