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    Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
    Why would that be a PR own goal? Evra should have been charged by the FA.
    It's clearly bollocks from Sale.

    I only posted the article because it follows on from the email re: Kayll & Tomkins and their supposed input to the Club that was posted earlier in the thread.

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      Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
      Yep....the man who bought (or at least convinced Chelsea to) David Luiz as a CB


      (FWIW....I think AVB is better than what he showed, or was allowed to show at Chelsea given the personnel and time afforded him, and he'd be preferable to Martinez, but he's still down the list for me)
      We have to face facts- not every top manager wants to come to Liverpool. Simple as. Whether he is down your list or not, he may be one of the best we can attract.

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        Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
        We have to face facts- not every top manager wants to come to Liverpool. Simple as. Whether he is down your list or not, he may be one of the best we can attract.


        1) Rafa, 2) Klopp, 3) AvB - They were realistic targets IMO
        (and Klopp only because he may have seen it as progression to move to England, but seeing as how he's ruled it out already....)

        Rest of them like Pep, Mourinho, Hodgson etc are cloud cuckoo land.
        "I will make the boys feel your support"
        Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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          Originally posted by McDermotX View Post


          1) Rafa, 2) Klopp, 3) AvB - They were realistic targets IMO
          (and Klopp only because he may have seen it as progression to move to England, but seeing as how he's ruled it out already....)

          Rest of them like Pep, Mourinho, Hodgson etc are cloud cuckoo land.
          don't rule the hodge out yet, might be a free man after the first two euro games!!

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            Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
            don't rule the hodge out yet, might be a free man after the first two euro games!!

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              Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
              don't rule the hodge out yet, might be a free man after the first two euro games!!
              "I will make the boys feel your support"
              Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
                don't rule the hodge out yet, might be a free man after the first two euro games!!
                He's already smoothing the way by making Gerrard skipper.

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                  Wise words from Macca

                  Steve McManaman has told Liverpool the days of them being able to hand-pick their next manager are "long gone".

                  Former Anfield hero McManaman suggested anyone who thought the likes of Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would be interested in replacing the sacked Kenny Dalglish was not "living in the real world".
                  Liverpool's owners, Fenway Sports Group, have been criticised for a recruitment process that has already seen them snubbed by Swansea boss Brendan Rodgers, amid reports they would attempt to interview up to 12 candidates.

                  The Reds have been given permission to speak to Wigan's Roberto Martinez, while it has been suggested they also want to meet former Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas and are even considering reappointing Rafael Benitez, both of whom are currently out of work.

                  An attempt to canvass fan opinion on the subject backfired when Liverpool were prompted to delete a Twitter message on their official account asking who should replace Dalglish.

                  Some supporters believe Liverpool's status as one of the most successful clubs in European football history should allow them to go out and get almost anyone they want.

                  But McManaman, who spent more than a decade at Anfield, said: "That's not the case any more.

                  "You can't identify Pep Guardiola and go and get him, you can't identify Jose Mourinho and go and get him.

                  "Those days of that type of appointment have long gone.

                  "It's unrealistic, isn't it?

                  "Of course, we'd like Pep or we'd like Jose Mourinho - but we're living in the real world.

                  "I don't know who's available, who's willing to come.

                  "The finance is a big thing, whether you're going to have to extricate someone from a contract.

                  "It's not like it was 20 years ago."


                  McManaman refused to criticise FSG's approach to finding a new manager and defended their attempts to interview Rodgers and Martinez, among others.

                  "I know they're speaking to a number of managers, aren't they, and trying to bring in the right appointment," he said.

                  "I presume that's all you can do.

                  "They also spoken to a lot of high-calibre managers. It's just that we don't know about them.

                  "People are picking on Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rodgers.

                  "They're both wonderful managers and Roberto Martinez is a superstar - he's a friend of mine."


                  Dalglish lost his job on Wednesday following Liverpool's worst Barclays Premier League finish - eighth place - for 18 years and their lowest points tally - 52 - since 1954.

                  They did win the Carling Cup and finish runners-up in the FA Cup but FSG expected the funds Dalglish was given to spend to guarantee a more sustained push for a Champions League place.

                  McManaman warned that whoever succeeded the Scot would need an even bigger transfer kitty to haul Liverpool back into contention for a top-four finish next season.

                  "I don't know how much financial muscle they've got," he said.

                  "If they go and spend £500million, it is realistic. If they go and spend £10, it's unrealistic."

                  McManaman was brought to Liverpool by Dalglish during the latter's first spell in charge and revealed he was with some of the current players when news of Wednesday's sacking emerged.

                  "I haven't heard from Kenny," he said.

                  "But I was with a lot of the other players the other day and it was a shock

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                    He was doing OK (better than usual anyway) until he mentioned Martinez being a 'superstar', even if he is a 'mate'
                    "I will make the boys feel your support"
                    Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                      Just what we need with Kayall- more ways for others to tarnish the club with a racist brush.
                      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                        Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
                        After remembering today that Rafa refused to buy another striker to cover Torres I have come to the conclusion that AVB is the man!
                        He had Keane but the Yanks nicked to £s to replace him for debt repayment.
                        3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                          Wise words from Macca

                          Steve McManaman has told Liverpool the days of them being able to hand-pick their next manager are "long gone".

                          Former Anfield hero McManaman suggested anyone who thought the likes of Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho would be interested in replacing the sacked Kenny Dalglish was not "living in the real world".
                          Liverpool's owners, Fenway Sports Group, have been criticised for a recruitment process that has already seen them snubbed by Swansea boss Brendan Rodgers, amid reports they would attempt to interview up to 12 candidates.

                          The Reds have been given permission to speak to Wigan's Roberto Martinez, while it has been suggested they also want to meet former Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas and are even considering reappointing Rafael Benitez, both of whom are currently out of work.

                          An attempt to canvass fan opinion on the subject backfired when Liverpool were prompted to delete a Twitter message on their official account asking who should replace Dalglish.

                          Some supporters believe Liverpool's status as one of the most successful clubs in European football history should allow them to go out and get almost anyone they want.

                          But McManaman, who spent more than a decade at Anfield, said: "That's not the case any more.

                          "You can't identify Pep Guardiola and go and get him, you can't identify Jose Mourinho and go and get him.

                          "Those days of that type of appointment have long gone.

                          "It's unrealistic, isn't it?

                          "Of course, we'd like Pep or we'd like Jose Mourinho - but we're living in the real world.

                          "I don't know who's available, who's willing to come.

                          "The finance is a big thing, whether you're going to have to extricate someone from a contract.

                          "It's not like it was 20 years ago."


                          McManaman refused to criticise FSG's approach to finding a new manager and defended their attempts to interview Rodgers and Martinez, among others.

                          "I know they're speaking to a number of managers, aren't they, and trying to bring in the right appointment," he said.

                          "I presume that's all you can do.

                          "They also spoken to a lot of high-calibre managers. It's just that we don't know about them.

                          "People are picking on Roberto Martinez and Brendan Rodgers.

                          "They're both wonderful managers and Roberto Martinez is a superstar - he's a friend of mine."


                          Dalglish lost his job on Wednesday following Liverpool's worst Barclays Premier League finish - eighth place - for 18 years and their lowest points tally - 52 - since 1954.

                          They did win the Carling Cup and finish runners-up in the FA Cup but FSG expected the funds Dalglish was given to spend to guarantee a more sustained push for a Champions League place.

                          McManaman warned that whoever succeeded the Scot would need an even bigger transfer kitty to haul Liverpool back into contention for a top-four finish next season.

                          "I don't know how much financial muscle they've got," he said.

                          "If they go and spend £500million, it is realistic. If they go and spend £10, it's unrealistic."

                          McManaman was brought to Liverpool by Dalglish during the latter's first spell in charge and revealed he was with some of the current players when news of Wednesday's sacking emerged.

                          "I haven't heard from Kenny," he said.

                          "But I was with a lot of the other players the other day and it was a shock
                          Thinking on, what Macca has said is also applicable for incoming players. People need to wise up!

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                            Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                            I can't speak for Cream, but I am also more optimistic about the club's future right now. I think the appointment of Dalglish was bowing to pressure from the fans and with hindsight it was the wrong decision. The owners may not be football experts, but they're not new to sporting ventures and I feel that they will appoint the right people this time. I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and I'm glad that they're hopefully using their own judgement to sort out the mess. The fans were right to get involved and speak out when Hicks and Gillett were destroying our club, now I think we should do what we do best and show our support instead of whining about things which may or may not be happening.
                            I haven't got a problem with people getting behind FSG for sakes sake, but saying that we're going in the right direction after we've just sacked every bugger does not make any sense. See who we employ first of all, then tell me we're going in the right direction but not now, not at this moment in time.

                            This club is balancing on the very edge of longterm mediocrity or potential longterm success, its so close as to which way we fall.

                            This is summer is make or break for us, I truely believe that. We simply cannot afford to get thnigs wrong again.

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                              Originally posted by Suarez View Post
                              I'm sorry, I'm still waiting to have FSG prove themselves to us before I'll believe that they're right for the club, and I appreciate that others are optimistic and want to get right behind them, but what on earth was that?

                              "I'm liking the direction the club is going", we've just sacked loads of people, including the 3rd manager in as many years and finished 8th in the league.

                              "long term vision and a philosophy that will run throughout the club", what is this longterm vision and philosophy you speak of? I fail to see any evidence of this at this moment in time (we've just gone back to Kenny, and sacked him after 1.5 seasons and Roy after less than a season).

                              Hang on, I've just got to the second half of your post and it seems to contradict the first part? First half is a like the direction we're going in, the second half is Liverpool used to mean something and over the las 2/3 years we've become just another club?

                              i don't think you can blame fsg for the staff they inherited, and i'm 100% sure you can't blame them for firing rafa. they're still finding their feet. now that they've seen the club in action over a full year they will have a better idea of how they want things done and by whom.
                              dave of mutilation

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                                Originally posted by PC Plod View Post
                                Just what we need with Kayall- more ways for others to tarnish the club with a racist brush.
                                I don't think it will be picked up much; it's only Charlie Sale and his tittle-tattle. At least it put the finger on a complete tit so it's not all bad.

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