Hillsborough

[Shaggy]

Dan Roan @danroan
BREAKING FA Chairman apologises: "We are deeply sorry this tragedy occurred at a stadium the FA selected...I offer a full apology.."

[ChesterDave]

R&S Alliance, I hope they are forced to handover the documents on new criminal charges the ****ing weasels. Bettison will surely go after that statement. Fans not to blame but.... ****.

I kind of hope the threat of legal action drags on for a while before justice is exacted. All those with culpability having sleepless nights wondering when the knock at the door will come. Manslaughter charges, perjury, defamation. A lot of people with a lot to fear

[baitman]

...All those with culpability having sleepless nights wondering when the knock at the door will come. Manslaughter charges, perjury, defamation. A lot of people with a lot to fear

lets hope b and q will be sold out of rope as these *******s go and hang themselves somewhere quiet

[Mostar]

That FA statement is awful; lip service, followed by how helpful they have been and concluded with how things are better now.

They should be ashamed for posting that. Absolutely no accountability in that response. None.

I'd recommend everyone reads this, no matter how difficult it is.

Incredibly difficult read.

[meffin]

The girl, the young lad they found under their feet. Just devastating. I'd love to know if he ever found his mate alive.

I presmd he survived as there's no mention of him dying or it being in memory of him. Wonder who the girl and young lad were?

[Helios Creed]

what makes me sick is that if there had been anyone rich, poerful or famous's kids killed then this would have all come out 20 years ago instead of people being lied to and kept in the dark about what happened to their children

[Shaggy]

Over the years I've read a great deal about April 15th 1989, but last night I saw some pictures that I don't think I'd never seen before. Pictures of the crush. Truly horrific, so horrific that the images haunted me until I eventually got to sleep. I don't know why I posted this.

[Shaggy]

HILLSBOROUGH; 1981 SPURS DISASTER NARROWLY AVOIDED.

Most people know that in 1989, 96 Liverpool supporters lost their lives in a terrible human crush at the Hillsborough stadium in Sheffield during an F.A. Cup semi-final match versus Nottingham Forest. You can read more about the 1989 disaster here.

What many people don’t know however is that disaster nearly struck eight years earlier, at the same ground, in the same round, of the same cup competition. That year it was Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers who travelled to the Hillsborough stadium, and it was the Spurs fans who were allocated the smaller, problematic Leppings lane end of the ground. There were broken limbs and other injuries sustained that day in 1981, but thankfully no fatalities largely due to the fact that the police opened up pitch-side gates as the crushing became apparent. If only they had done that in 1989.

As a part of the filming of my Hillsborough Disaster documentary, I met with a Spurs fan who was at Hillsborough that day in 1981, and he told me his story, You can also see the video he put together here which shows the Spurs fans spilling onto the pitch as play continues.

Here is a short clip taken from my longer interview with Neil Irving that will appear in the documentary:

Had the South Yorkshire Police not opened the perimeter gates that day, and let over 500 Spurs fans escape onto the pitch (click to watch video) then there could well have been a Hillsborough disaster eight years before the one in 1989.

I am due to meet with other fans from other teams who also had a terrible experience of the Leppings Lane terracing, and more details on that will follow.

So why was it OK to open the gates in 1981, but not in 1989?

[Shaggy]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzHVe2mEN0"]Hillsborough 1981 - Wolves v Tottenham Hotspur (FA CUP S/F) - YouTube[/ame]

[Fosterbloke]

Where the **** did you see them? Please tell me it wasn't some ****ty online newspaper?

[Lecter]

R&S Alliance, I hope they are forced to handover the documents on new criminal charges the ****ing weasels. Bettison will surely go after that statement. Fans not to blame but.... ****.

I kind of hope the threat of legal action drags on for a while before justice is exacted. All those with culpability having sleepless nights wondering when the knock at the door will come. Manslaughter charges, perjury, defamation. A lot of people with a lot to fear

It would be nice to have them looking over their shoulder but for the sake of the families justice has to be swift

None of those cunts in charge that day have had sleepless nights so far lets not kid ourselves so it would be good for them to suffer

I wonder about the humanity of some of those people

I'd find it hard to live just knowing I ****ed up that day but to compound the situation by then lying to cover your own failings is ****ing mind-blowing in the extreme and shows the levels they will stoop to

Any police who are found guilty and who have subsequently retired or been pensioned off should have those pensions revoked

Duckenfield took the piss, retiring on ill-health to dodge internal investigation

Its an absolute ****ing joke

[Liverpool]

Over the years I've read a great deal about April 15th 1989, but last night I saw some pictures that I don't think I'd never seen before. Pictures of the crush. Truly horrific, so horrific that the images haunted me until I eventually got to sleep. I don't know why I posted this.

I wonder what happened to the people in the pictures

[Galb]

How can that Bettison guy stay on? Bad enough what he did but these comments in his statement today are outrageous:

""Taylor was right in saying that the disaster was caused, mainly, through a lack of police control. Fans behaviour, to the extent that it was relevant at all, made the job of the police, in the crush outside Leppings Lane turnstiles, harder than it needed to be. But it didn’t cause the disaster any more than the sunny day that encouraged people to linger outside the stadium as kick off approached.

“I held those views then, I hold them now. I have never, since hearing the Taylor evidence unfold, offered any other interpretation in public or private."


Still spinning, still dissembling, still 'mentioning' how the fans "made the job of the police .. harder than it needed to be".

Still lying.

[Lecter]

Over the years I've read a great deal about April 15th 1989, but last night I saw some pictures that I don't think I'd never seen before. Pictures of the crush. Truly horrific, so horrific that the images haunted me until I eventually got to sleep. I don't know why I posted this.

Theres things from that day I've never seen that have been shown in the last few days

One thing that really sticks in my mind was whilst the fans were spilling out over on to the pitch the police formed a line on the halfway line to stop our fans going up the pitch towards the Forest fans

They stood unmoving for sometime (the Forest fans were booing at the time) it might have only been a minute or so but it seemed like ages

A few fans charged the police line but pulled up short and one man went and spoke with an officer, immediately a gap appeared in the line and the fans charged towards the Forest end to get the hoardings

The Forest fans were baying until the LFC fans started ripping off the hoardings and charging back down the field, then the Forest fans broke into applause and continued to applaud

The other night I saw some of that footage for the first time since that day

[Alex]

Yesterday they had Grobbelaar on 5Live, and he was recounting hearing the fans screaming at him 'They're killing us Bruce'

That man has to carry those four words around for the rest of his life. Everything I hear from the day gets me more upset.