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  • Mostar
    Chief Scout
    • Jun 2009
    • 23194

    #511
    ‏@rioferdy5
    At long last an apology and fans exonerated, yesterday was an emotional day, my thoughts are with the families affected by Hillsborough
    Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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    • rushscored4
      Bob Monkhouse
      • Jul 2006
      • 8258

      #512
      Originally posted by Mostar
      Beyond the belief.

      Terrible.
      This reply of mine (Q17) was marked as "adverse comment":

      "POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S PLEAS TO STOP THE MATCH OR OPEN THE GATE"

      I feel so angry that my statement has been tampered with or edited to suit their cover up.

      I've also noticed that they've deleted the answers which told them I was taken to the Northern General in one of their vans (because there were not enough ambulances) and the replies about my injuries and subsequent treatment.
      There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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      • Shaggy
        Unidentified Rascal
        • Jul 2006
        • 135533

        #513
        Originally posted by rushscored4
        This reply of mine (Q17) was marked as "adverse comment":

        "POLICE DID NOT RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S PLEAS TO STOP THE MATCH OR OPEN THE GATE"

        I feel so angry that my statement has been tampered with or edited to suit their cover up.

        I've also noticed that they've deleted the answers which told them I was taken to the Northern General in one of their vans (because there were not enough ambulances) and the replies about my injuries and subsequent treatment.
        I was going to ask about "adverse comment" bit - at first I thought it was part of the cover-up, but then wondered if it was simply a case of more criticism levelled at the police being highlighted. Sorry for my naivety - what do you think?
        Thanks very much for being

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        • rushscored4
          Bob Monkhouse
          • Jul 2006
          • 8258

          #514
          Originally posted by Shaggy
          I was going to ask about "adverse comment" bit - at first I thought it was part of the cover-up, but then wondered if it was simply a case of more criticism levelled at the police being highlighted. Sorry for my naivety - what do you think?
          Don't know Sean, emotions are still running wild so I am possibly over-sensitive right now mate.

          I've also found my evidence from the Coroner's inquest (Popper) from January 1991 - pages 12 to 28:



          My marriage was falling apart at the time of the inquest mainly as a consequence of Hillsborough and the demons I was fighting. Looking back I don't know how I managed to stay in control when inside my head all I wanted to do was shout and scream at everybody.
          There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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          • Captain Stu
            Dalglish
            • May 2012
            • 2250

            #515
            Originally posted by rushscored4
            Wow.. I've just found my statement to West Midlands Police. Look at how the questions are leading me to say the group I was with and other fans had been drinking...



            (Pages 201 to 209 - Iain Crawford)
            That is absolutely terrible. I can't even imagine what reading that again must be like.

            I haven't got round to reading the report yet but I fully intend on doing so. My Dad was at Hillsborough in the central pens. Fortunately he came home but his best mate didn't - my Uncle Dave.

            Originally posted by Gingawaria
            The 'Sieze' request on anyone who still had their Tickets seems odd. Am I reading too much into it is it possibly them wanting to sieze as many tickets to swell the 'ticketless' fan numbers?
            That was my first thought too.
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            • Lee
              Chunder camel
              • Dec 2006
              • 32028

              #516
              Originally posted by rushscored4
              Wow.. I've just found my statement to West Midlands Police. Look at how the questions are leading me to say the group I was with and other fans had been drinking...



              (Pages 201 to 209 - Iain Crawford)
              Jesus Christ.

              Originally posted by Gingawaria
              The 'Sieze' request on anyone who still had their Tickets seems odd. Am I reading too much into it is it possibly them wanting to sieze as many tickets to swell the 'ticketless' fan numbers?
              I think you're right, that's the only reason I can think of too.

              Originally posted by Captain Stu
              That is absolutely terrible. I can't even imagine what reading that again must be like.

              I haven't got round to reading the report yet but I fully intend on doing so. My Dad was at Hillsborough in the central pens. Fortunately he came home but his best mate didn't - my Uncle Dave.
              Sorry to hear that, Stu. Awful.

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              • rushscored4
                Bob Monkhouse
                • Jul 2006
                • 8258

                #517
                Originally posted by Captain Stu
                I haven't got round to reading the report yet but I fully intend on doing so. My Dad was at Hillsborough in the central pens. Fortunately he came home but his best mate didn't - my Uncle Dave.
                Originally posted by Lee
                Sorry to hear that, Stu. Awful.
                Me too, Stu. I lost a mate that day too but I cannot imagine what those who lost relatives went through - and are still going through...
                There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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                • Eric Swindler
                  Benitez
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 661

                  #518
                  Originally posted by rushscored4
                  Me too, Stu. I lost a mate that day too but I cannot imagine what those who lost relatives went through - and are still going through...
                  One gets the sense that yesterday was only the beginning.

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                  • Lee
                    Chunder camel
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 32028

                    #519
                    Lady on TalkSport at the moment who is absolutely brilliant.

                    She's been on for about five minutes now and really making it clear about what a gutter rag The Sun is. I'm quite shocked they didn't cut her off but she was fantastic. Mick Quinn and Jason Cundy completely agreed with her.

                    If you can listen again then do so because she put across some really good points.

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                    • Shaggy
                      Unidentified Rascal
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 135533

                      #520
                      Originally posted by rushscored4
                      Don't know Sean, emotions are still running wild so I am possibly over-sensitive right now mate.

                      I've also found my evidence from the Coroner's inquest (Popper) from January 1991 - pages 12 to 28:



                      My marriage was falling apart at the time of the inquest mainly as a consequence of Hillsborough and the demons I was fighting. Looking back I don't know how I managed to stay in control when inside my head all I wanted to do was shout and scream at everybody.
                      Halfway through this now - page 20. It's unbelievable stuff, my heart's pounding just reading it. I can't get close to imagining how all this is making you feel.
                      Thanks very much for being

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                      • Assassin
                        Kloppite
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 25908

                        #521
                        I have been a way from any types of news for the last couple of days.....

                        I am so happy that the truth has finally come out. Its a fantastic acheivement for all who have campaigned for this

                        Now we will finally have justice for the 96.

                        My thoughts are for all of the families and friends of the 96 they must be going through a rollercoaster of emotions at the moment and unfortunately it will continue for sometime to come. I sincerely hope they all come through this ok

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                        • Neil Young
                          Prosecco Socialist
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 62564

                          #522
                          I think "adverse comment" is clearly a coding element.
                          Last edited by Neil Young; 13-09-12, 04:25 PM. Reason: :o
                          .
                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                          • rushscored4
                            Bob Monkhouse
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 8258

                            #523
                            Originally posted by Shaggy
                            Halfway through this now - page 20. It's unbelievable stuff, my heart's pounding just reading it. I can't get close to imagining how all this is making you feel.
                            Fairly calm today to be honest. I took the day off and found it quite cathartic to read through some of the documents even if at times it appears as though there has been some doctoring of the evidence.

                            Originally posted by Neil Young
                            I think "adverse comment" is clearly a coding element.
                            Not sure what that is but it made it more difficult to copy and paste!
                            There is a light that never goes out. RIP Alan "Mally" Johnston and the 96. YNWA.

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                            • nineteen
                              Benitez
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 527

                              #524
                              Originally posted by Lecter
                              I read that this morning on the subway into work. I don't usually get the paper (being all tech-savvy now and getting news from the internet), but caught the headline above the fold as I walked past a deli and decided to buy the paper. I wasn't there that day, but I did see it all on tv and will not forget those images as long as I live. Reading the article this morning, I was welling up in the midst of a crowded train car. An odd sight, to see a grown man on the verge of tears in the middle of morning rush hour.

                              I have to say, to all those who stood strong over the last 23 years, fought against the mockery and criticism, and never wavered from their pursuit for justice - you have demonstrated what it means to be courageous, to remain true to your convictions, and to be Liverpool fans. You will never walk alone.

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                              • Shanks
                                Shankly
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7172

                                #525
                                Who the hell was this knobhead?
                                That's some ****ty questioning there..

                                Cross-Examined by MR. ISAACS;

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