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    Originally posted by Spring View Post
    That dude is a piece of ****. I hope the families sue the crap out of him for Libel.
    sadly he can't be sued for libel because he does not name a anyone
    who's arsed?

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      Rangers are going to hold a minutes silence tonight

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        Billy Liddell ‏@Liddellpool
        Tribute: Steven Gerrard will release 96 red balloons prior to Liverpool's Premier League game on Sunday

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          Liverpool and Manchester United to unite in tribute to Hillsborough victims on Sunday

          Liverpool and Manchester United will put aside their rivalries and participate in a joint tribute to the victims of Hillsborough when the clubs meet in the Premier League on Sunday, it was confirmed on Tuesday night.

          The opposing captains, likely to be Steven Gerrard and Nemanja Vidic, will share the honour of releasing 96 red balloons shortly before kick-off, to represent the number of Liverpool supporters who perished on the fateful day in Sheffield 23 years ago.

          In what will be the first time home game for the Merseyside club since the publication of the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s exhaustive report into the disaster, the pre-match ceremonies will duly recognise the significance of recent events.

          Manchester United have shown their willingness to play their part since it became apparent their trip to Merseyside coincided with Liverpool’s desire to express their respect and gratitude to all those who have fought so diligently and passionately for the truth to be established.

          Anfield will become a shrine prior to kick off. Liverpool announced plans for three sides of the stadium to form mosaics to honour the 96 supporters who died.

          As the opposing players exit the tunnel to the club’s anthem You’ll Never Walk Alone, The Kop will display the words ‘The Truth’.

          The Anfield Road end, directly facing The Kop, will reveal the number ‘96’. And the adjoining Centenary Stand of the stadium will depict the most pertinent observation of ‘Justice’.

          Representatives of the three support groups — The Hillsborough Family Support Group, Hillsborough Justice Campaign and Hope for Hillsborough – who have worked so tirelessly to uncover the facts and dispel the myths surrounding the tragedy, will be honoured guests at the fixture.

          Liverpool and United have held discussions at senior level in recent days to ensure the correct tone is set in what is often a volatile meeting of the North West clubs.

          Liverpool’s managing director, Ian Ayre, liaised directly with Old Trafford chief executive David Gill to oversee proceedings this weekend.

          Although there are inevitable sporting tensions between the clubs and their fans, traditionally the hierarchies have enjoyed a professional relationship and this is reflected in the mutual respect shown over the past week.

          “It is our first opportunity we have had as a football club to pay tribute at Anfield to what everybody has done: the families, the fans and various other people like Andy Burnham MP,” said Ayre.

          “It is a chance for everybody to show their respects on the day.” Both clubs are aware there is little can be done about the incendiary atmosphere that usually typifies meetings between England’s two most successful clubs.

          Neither is particularly keen to see the intensity that makes the fixture such a global attraction compromised, but there is an acknowledgement — particularly following the controversies of last season — to ensure certain boundaries of taste and decency are adhered too.

          Concerns have inevitably been raised about the timing of United’s visit given recent issues between the clubs, but both see the meeting as an opportunity to show how for the overwhelming majority of those connected to Anfield and Old Trafford there is a mutual understanding and sympathy for what they’ve experienced throughout their history.

          All the discussions between the clubs have focused solely on the tributes. Suggestions Liverpool have raised the issue of the pre-match handshakes with any of their players has caused bewilderment at Anfield.

          If Luis Suárez and Patrice Evra meet again — by no means certain given the impressive debut of Alexander Buttner for United last weekend — the Uruguay striker will shake the French defender’s hand.

          Liverpool have felt no need to remind the player of this as they fully expect that formality to pass without any controversy.

          Liverpool, meanwhile, head to Switzerland on Wednesday to prepare for a Europa League tie with Young Boys, with manager Brendan Rodgers ready to save his star players for the weekend.

          Rodgers believes his last European fixture, at home to Heart of Midlothian, took too much out of his side when they lost the subsequent Premier League game to Arsenal.

          He won’t make the same mistake again. Pepe Reina, Suárez and captain Gerrard will remain on Merseyside to prepare for the visit of United.

          Rodgers is also considering leaving other senior players at home or on the bench as he gives youth a chance.

          Defender Andre Wisdom has been drafted in, alongside recent signing German starlet Samed Yesil, 18, who may be fast-tracked into the first team in the absence of striking cover.

          Liverpool, though, will still be able to rely on the more experienced Jamie Carragher, Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson for the game in Berne.

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            **** you Blair.

            "What is the point?"

            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              I read that a different way.

              "Watch out for JS setting up too many inquiries of this kind"
              "Why? what is the point?"

              It could well be internal politics not related to the actual document.

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                  Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
                  I read that a different way.

                  "Watch out for JS setting up too many inquiries of this kind"
                  "Why? what is the point?"

                  It could well be internal politics not related to the actual document.

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                    I hate to be cynical but, internal or external, I suggest it's simply Blair asking what the potential political gain is.

                    People might care to bear that in mind when evaluating the government apology too, welcome though it is.
                    .
                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      Did Murdoch empire order burglary of Hillsborough campaigner's home?


                      Hillsborough campaigner Sheila Coleman's home was broken into more than once—and her address book and papers about the case stolen. The question is: who did it?

                      She told Socialist Worker about the burglaries as evidence emerged that a private detective agency carried out a burglary while working for the now-closed News of the World.

                      A police intelligence report indicates that Southern Investigations "gained unauthorised access" to the home of a newsworthy person"with a view to gaining information".

                      Sheila told Socialist Worker that the burglaries of her homefit this pattern—as the thieves did not take items of monetary value. "On one occasion only my address book was stolen," she said.

                      "I know private investigators were paid by News International to break into people's houses and take their address books."

                      On another occasion, after the inquest ended, Sheila gothome to find her flat had been broken into. "There was nothing taken of any value on the streets", she said. "But in the park nearby was my briefcase with all my Hillsborough papers strewn all over."

                      Several public figures who were victims of News of the World phone hacking have similar stories of burglaries where no valuables were stolen.

                      Labour MP Tom Watson's garage was broken into in 2009, and paperwork was rifled through. He says that during the phone hacking case he has"met many victims who had also suffered mysterious break-ins".

                      Former private investigators and News of the World executives have denied any involvement in burglary.

                      Sheila Coleman also raised suspicions that Hillsborough campaigners' and families phones may have been tapped during the 1990s.

                      I assumed it was the police and that it was because of thework I was doing," she says. "I would pick up the phone and listen to twoHillsborough families in different houses having a conversation.

                      "Lots of families would say similar things about picking thephone up and hearing other people talking. Anyone ringing me would say my phone would be picked up before I picked it up."

                      She added that there were other curious occurrences that made her think someone was tampering with her phone.

                      "One Saturday a colleague from work rang me and couldn't get through," she says. "Anyone who knew my movements would know I'd be out at that time.

                      "My colleague rang British Telecom to say I want to report my friend's phone, there's something wrong with it. She was told: 'That phone's been temporarily disconnected on the instructions of the manager.' My phone was working normally by the evening."

                      It seems there are still more cover-ups yet to be revealed over Hillsborough.



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                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        ****ing hell, if that can be proved

                        Sad that imo it seems to be more likely that these practices happened than not.

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                          Yet another disgrace.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            Utter Scumbags. Serious jailtime needed.
                            Football without Origi is nothing

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                              THE chair of the Hillsborough Family Support Group Margaret Aspinall will today discover whether her son James was one of the 41 Liverpool fans who could have survived the disaster.

                              Last week the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s report revealed 41 of the 96 victims of the tragedy could have been saved if the emergency services had responded properly to the disaster.

                              Margaret and her husband Jimmy will meet Dr Bill Kirkup, the medical expert from the panel, to be told whether their son James, 18, is one of the 41.

                              She said: "There are a number of families who went last week, I put it off [to this week] because things have been manic.

                              "I don’t know whether James was one of the 41 that could have been saved.

                              "But in all this it must be remembered that 96 people died that should never have died."

                              She asked for the family to be left in peace to come to terms with whatever Dr Kirkup tells them today.

                              Not all families have chosen to find out if their loved one might have survived the Leppings Lane crush at Sheffield Wednesday’s Hillsborough stadium in April 1989. Last week Barry Devonside, who lost his 18-year-old son Christopher at Hillsborough, said the family could not bear the pain of knowing if he could have survived and had decided not to meet with Dr Kirkup.

                              Margaret, who lives in Huyton, and president of HFSG Trevor Hicks were at Goodison Park on Monday night to see Everton’s poignant tribute to the 96.

                              She revealed that the song that the Blues played during the tribute – ‘He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother – was the last record James had bought her.

                              "I didn’t say anything to Bill Kenwright. I thought ‘Oh my God how strange was that?’ because Everton didn’t know. It was very moving.

                              "I’ve still got the record, I treasure it."

                              The track by The Hollies was selected by Mr Kenwright, it is one of his favourite songs and was played at his late mother’s funeral.

                              "I thought Everton were excellent, this city unites when it most needs to. I came home and told Jimmy I was praying for Everton to win."

                              The families met on Sunday at Anfield to discuss their legal response to the revelations in the report which exposed the full scale of the cover-up to blame the fans for the disaster at the 1989 FA Cup Semi-Final.

                              "The whole thing is hard to comprehend, it was not just the police – it was a lot more than that. And it goes higher, right to the top, I have always said that."

                              Margaret said the last few days have been incredibly hard for the families who are still grieving, and trying to come to terms with the scale of the cover-up and the 23 year fight for justice.

                              "At the family meeting the pain was written all over their faces," she said.
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                The heroes of Hillsborough must be uncovered

                                11 hours ago

                                Tony Barrett

                                “The fans were superb. They helped the police as much as anything else. It was their friends, their supporters and their football club that was in trouble and they did everything they could and more,” Kenny Dalglish

                                “The actions of the Liverpool fans that day were absolutely fantastic. It was one of the greatest acts of spontaneous humanity that this country has ever witnessed and it is time that this was recognised,” Hillsborough survivor Peter Carney

                                By now we know their names. We know the organisations that they worked for. We know how their failings contributed to the deaths of 96 people. We also know the parts they played in a cover-up that denied the victims of British football’s worst ever disaster and their families the truth and justice that they deserved. There is a lot we know about the villains of Hillsborough but what of the heroes of April 15 1989 and its aftermath? What do we know about them?

                                The simple answer, more than 23 years on, is nowhere near enough. The smear campaign that was launched before most of the victims of Hillsborough had even been identified meant that no bravery awards or accolades have ever been handed out to those Liverpool supporters who saved countless lives on that fateful day. They remain anonymous, their actions a mere footnote in a tragedy in which ordinary men and women were the ones who performed heroic acts when those in authority failed them.

                                In the build-up to last Wednesday’s gravity-shaking release of the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s remarkable report into the disaster, the sister of one of the 96 went to extraordinary lengths to track down those who had tried in vain to save the life of her brother, Andrew. Louise Brooks’ story was as instructive as it was heartbreaking and as she recounted it in an ante-room of Liverpool’s Anglican Cathedral the need for the heroes of Hillsborough to be given the recognition they have always deserved but been denied was made even more apparent than ever before.

                                “A witness saw my brother vomiting on the pitch at 3.40pm, which is obviously 25 minutes after the 3.15pm cut-off point imposed at the inquests” she said. “Andrew was given the body number 50 before he was certified dead. A black bin-liner was placed over his head before he was certified dead.

                                “The police officer who allegedly tried to save my brother lied to my parents and tried to obstruct us from finding the fans who did help him and carried him off the pitch. We were told the fan was a ‘rough gem’ from one of the roughest estates in Liverpool and that we shouldn’t try to approach him.

                                “When I eventually tracked him down he was from one of the richest areas and he and his family were wonderful to us. The police officer was meant to have been Superman for what he did that day and all I have of him is a photograph of him with his arm around a doctor while the fan gave my brother the kiss of life.”

                                And that, in essence, is what the Hillsborough disaster is all about and why the extraordinary findings of the Hillsborough Independent Panel should represent a line in the sand, marking the end of the lies and deceit that damned innocent fans and the beginning of the truth which not only exonerates them. It celebrates their undoubted heroism.

                                Until now, the cover-up has prevented this from happening and over the years Liverpool supporters have become increasingly used to hearing “The Sun was right, you killed your own fans” directed at them at certain away grounds. That the exact opposite was true did not matter, tribal terrace points were at stake and fuelled by the falsehoods peddled by those in authority it was all too easy for supporters to resort to a macabre game of tragedy top trumps. The truth was out there but the lie was too convenient and too prevalent to be ignored.

                                Now, though, the truth is too compelling to be dismissed and the alternative, misleading version of events has been shown up for the lie it always was. A new narrative is needed. One that keeps the focus on fans but in a positive, factual manner that highlights their selfless courage, rather than smearing them with misinformation and black propaganda.

                                Countless people involved in the Hillsborough disaster have already tried to make this happen. Louise Brooks recently used Twitter in a desperate attempt to track down the three men who had used an advertising hoarding to carry her brother to where they hoped he would receive lifesaving treatment.

                                By posting photographs of the trio she hoped that someone would come forward who would be able to identify them, to be able to both show her gratitude and discover more about Andrew’s final moments. She was able to track two of them down, only to learn that the third had passed away. That a family member of someone who had died in such tragic circumstances was reduced to such a desperate search years later when social media made it possible is yet another damning indictment of a cover-up which actively denied people the truth.

                                As well as giving the Hillsborough families the opportunity to seek fresh inquests into how their loved ones died and raising the possibility of those responsibility finally being held to account for their actions, the events of the past week also offer a chance to right the wronging of fans who deserve to be celebrated for their deeds on April 15, 1989.

                                The heroes of Hillsborough are out there. The names of many of them are not yet widely known but at least now there is a realistic possibility of them being given the credit that one of the biggest cover-ups in British history threatened to deny them.
                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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