Hillsborough

[ChesterDave]

The connections between friends and relatives who went and knew each other and their differing fates is horrific reading.

[Stanbull]

St Etienne banner at yesterdays game v Lille, class

[Alex]

Ill speak to MrM and Paul about this thread. See what they can come up with.

[MrMichael]

We'll move it over to the news section, that is viewable by members only and not google indexed.

[Alex]

This years Memorial service at Anfield will be the last.

[Buzzo]

I suppose there gets to be a stage where people need to be able to grieve privately, there must be a lot of pressure on the families each year at the large scale memorial service.

[Chris]

I think it's a good decision as long as everyone has been consulted! And not just the HFSG deciding but I doubt they have.

The service is getting a bit silly in places, more and more ipad clutching beauts turning up just to get close or get a picture of the players, it's not a Liverpool FC open day for **** sake.

[ChesterDave]

In case anyone did not see the news today the summing up has finished and the Jury are now deliberating their verdict

[ukfootballfan101]

One of the jurors has discharged on medical grounds. From some of the comments by the judge (see David Conn's twitter) it sounds like there's been quite a bit of tension within the jury.

[meffin]

One of the jurors has discharged on medical grounds. From some of the comments by the judge (see David Conn's twitter) it sounds like there's been quite a bit of tension within the jury.

Really? From a quick look, im not seeing anything like that?

[Shaggy]

How long will the deliberations take? To summarise two years' worth of evidence seems an almighty task - even though we know it is an open and shut case.

[Buzzo]

They have something like 15 specific questions to answer don't they? The ones I read from a police culpability point of view seemed a no brainer. I'd imagine they can deliberate for as long as they see necessary.

Edit - its 14.

Here they are...

1. Basic facts of the disaster: Do you agree with the following statement: ""Ninety-six people died as a result of the disaster at the Hillsborough stadium on 15 April 1989 due to crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the stadium through exit gates."

2. Police planning for the semi-final match: Was there any error or omission in police planning or preparation which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

3. Policing of the match and the situation at the turnstiles: Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

4. Policing of the match and the crush on the terrace: Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

5. The opening of the gates: When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

6. Unlawful killing: Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed? To answer 'yes' to this question, the jurors must be sure of the following:
Firstly, that Ch Supt David Duckenfield owed a duty of care to the 96 who died
Secondly, that he was in breach of that duty of care
Thirdly, that the breach of Mr Duckenfield's duty of care caused the deaths
Finally, the jury must be sure that the breach which caused the deaths amounted to "gross negligence."

7. Behaviour of the supporters: Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles? If yes was that behaviour unusual or unforseeable?

8. Defects in Hillsborough stadium: Were there any features of its design, construction and layout which were dangerous or defective and which probably or may have caused or contributed to the disaster?

9. Licensing and oversight of the stadium: Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

10. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC before the day of the match: Was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the semi final match on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation which developed on the day of the match?

11. Conduct of Sheffield Wednesday FC on the day of the match: Was there any error or omission by SWFC and its staff on 15 April 1989 which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

12. Conduct of Eastwood and Partners (SWFC engineers): Should they have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of the stadium which caused or contributed to the disaster?

13. Emergency response and the role of South Yorkshire Police: After the crush in the West Terrace had begun to develop was there any error or omission by the police which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

14. Emergency response and the role of South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service (SYMAS): After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service SYMAS which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

[Buzzo]

Here is a link to the full questionnaire the Jury are to respond to.

[ukfootballfan101]

Really? From a quick look, im not seeing anything like that?

From David Conn's twitter

[ame]https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/717663020273561600[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/717663275173937152[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/717663752343199744[/ame]

[ame]https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/717664014550048768[/ame]

[TheElephantMan]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-inquests-jury-reached-decisions-11217373

Meant to post this yesterday. Adjourned until Monday, the jury deliberating over just one final question.