Hillsborough

[baitman]

newsnight on bbc2.

[Liverpool]

What a day. Unbelievable rollcoaster

[Slinky Skills]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36139599

[dom9]

Both the S*n and the Times have left any mention of it off the front page.

Not surprised. Must be a really ****ty position for the likes of Tony Barrett. Horrible cunts but got a family to feed!

https://twitter.com/TonyBarretTimes/status/725076412936376320?s=09

[TheElephantMan]

What does he expect really?

[Leyton388]

The REAL Iron Lady is smiling down upon us today.

RIP Anne.

[Liverpool]

terribly sad for her, also a massive shout at for relatively unknown hero Elkan Abrahamson her solicitor for over 20 years and over 20 families in the end, done huge work for the cause

[TheElephantMan]

Phil Scraton too, it's likely we'd never have had this inquest if he hadn't uncovered those amended police statements.

With regard to The Sun and The Times I think it's a calculated gamble on their part and one that's likely to pay off. Someone who has no interest in yesterday's inquest going into a newsagent today sees a wall of Hillsborough related headlines will choose The Sun or The Times. That's the mentality of many British people, I think they'll have a bumper day today. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

[dom9]

Phil Scraton too, it's likely we'd never have had this inquest if he hadn't uncovered those amended police statements.

With regard to The Sun and The Times I think it's a calculated gamble on their part and one that's likely to pay off. Someone who has no interest in yesterday's inquest going into a newsagent today sees a wall of Hillsborough related headlines will choose The Sun or The Times. That's the mentality of many British people, I think they'll have a bumper day today. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

The mentality of most British people is to choose which newspaper they buy because of the headline on the front page?

[redmike65]

The Times 2nd edition has Hillsborough on the front.

[TheElephantMan]

The mentality of most British people is to choose which newspaper they buy because of the headline on the front page?

yes, particularly when there's a specific story dominating the news.

[dom9]

yes, particularly when there's a specific story dominating the news.

Interesting.

I'd be more inclined to think that it would based on combination of brand loyalty and political persuasion.

[Fernandinho]

This is still so heartbreaking. I can't imagine the suffering of the families involved in what can only be described as a living nightmare

I am so proud of those in the foundation who fought for 27 years to prove the innocence of our fans and to prove that these absolute scumbags from the South Yorkshire police force are held accountable for their actions.

Nothing will ever change what happened, and the heartbreak will live with their families forever, but at least justice is now being served.

[frank the tank]

This is still so heartbreaking. I can't imagine the suffering of the families involved in what can only be described as a living nightmare

I am so proud of those in the foundation who fought for 27 years to prove the innocence of our fans and to prove that these absolute scumbags from the South Yorkshire police force are held accountable for their actions.

Nothing will ever change what happened, and the heartbreak will live with their families forever, but at least justice is now being served.

Justice won't be served until there is accountability. The fans that died that day, that survived that day (it is sometimes easy to forget that there were over 700 people injured that day) and that were also just there but not caught in the crush have now been fully exonerated. That was the big win of yesterday.

But they were tarred as scumbags, painted as people who killed their own fans. The police, the government at a few different levels, certain parts of the media that were basically used as a governmental propaganda toolpiece all made out that Liverpool fans, and people from Liverpool in general were scumbags. It is a stigma that has been allowed to stick for a generation. (sidenote - the fact that Everton fans sang the "always the victims" song a week ago at Anfield was a big kick as well to be honest)

So for me, and I suspect for many of the families, there won't be justice until all of those who ****ed up on the day are done for negligence and all of those who were complicit in the cover up are done for perverting the course of justice.

And even now, after a jury sat for over 2 years hearing all of that evidence, and have basically said that the fans played no part and that the police ****ed up, I would still be very surprised if anyone ever served a day in prison over this.

For the South Yorkshire Police to come out with some crappy PR statement about fully accepting the findings was also pretty despicable. 27 years on and after a 2 year inquiry they come out with an acceptance.

The likes of Duckenfield and Bettison who still peddled the notion that fans were at fault after all the pain over all that time should rot in hell. They ****in knew full well. What is espeically gauling is that they are sitting on nice police pensions and would have got expenses for appearing at the enquiry.......the whole thing still makes me angry to be honest.

[Fernandinho]

That's is very true mate.

It still makes me so angry to think there are people like them in the world. So selfish and heartless to pin the blame of all those lives on others for so many years. I wish those involved were younger so they could spend more time behind bars once they are prosecuted. I don't often wish this, but I hope they rot in jail for the rest of their lives.