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    By the way, Webb gave a ridiculous red card to Jordi Gomez last week. That red card has now been rescinded. He hasn't been demoted - instead he's been given United's tough trip to Newcastle. Interesting.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      Something's rotten.
      Hello mert.

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        it would be interesting to see the refs reports that determine who gets what, Fa are exempt from freedom of information though

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          It's a crooked organisation. And so is PGMOL.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            People shouldn't go after individual referees, like the morons who attacked Halsey on Twitter. it's a distraction and totally misses the point - it's not incompetence causing individual errors, it's, at best, a systematic failure by the FA and PGMOL to address biases and mistakes and, at worst, a network of corrupt relationships aimed at rigging outcomes.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
              Fa are exempt from freedom of information though
              Interesting, I hadn't realised that.



              Football Needs the Freedom of Information Act
              4th August 2011

              The FSF believes that football’s governing bodies should be subject to the Freedom of Information Act (FoI). Sport’s governing bodies should be held accountable in the same manner as government departments, local councils, and civil servants.

              Currently organisations like the Football Association (FA) are exempt from the Freedom of Information Act as are other sporting bodies such as the English Cricket Board, British Cycling Federation, and British Olympic Association (BOA).

              The FSF argues that sports governing bodies should not enjoy the same privileges as private companies. Governance of sport is a matter of great public interest because of the huge amounts of public money spent on sport and sporting events.

              England's failed attempt to host the World Cup in 2018 cost the FA an estimated £15m while local councils spent £2.1m in an attempt to become host cities. No internal inquiry was ever held by the FA to examine why the bid failed – despite it being a matter of massive national interest given football’s popularity and the impact on the public purse.

              Failed bids cost millions but their impact is miniscule compared to the billions of pounds worth of spending a successful bid can trigger. The government’s latest figures estimate that the Olympic Delivery Authority’s (ODA) construction programme will cost £7.25bn.

              The FSF also argues that sports governing bodies should be answerable to the public thanks to their role in encouraging sport-specific legislation when one of the world’s great events such as the Olympics or World Cup comes to town.
              In the Olympics’ case new legislation was introduced to protect the Olympic brands while the FA used the prime minister and Prince William to promote the 2018 bid. FIFA would also have demanded exemptions from normal United Kingdom tax laws if the bid had been successful.

              Raj Chandarana, of the FSF, said: “Sport is not just another business commodity – it is at the cultural heart of the United Kingdom and fans of every sport deserve to know what their governing bodies are up to for better or worse. The Freedom of Information Act has been crucial in increasing transparency in other walks of life and we believe sport could benefit from it too.

              “In effect, sport’s governing bodies are public bodies, because of the importance of sport in our national life, and the fact that sport receives financial backing and other forms of help from government. In a football context this is illustrated by the Commons Culture, Media and Sport’s inquiry into football governance.”
              Hello mert.

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                Did Ferguson get charged for his post match comments?
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Did he ****

                  Not yet anyway.
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                    so what would be the solution?

                    An Independent european referee body? PL takes referees from Spain, italy, germany and no english Ref is allowed to Referee a English Game? La Liga takes PL, Germany and Serie A referees, etc.

                    There is enough money in all the top leagues to allow it..

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                      I was going to post something the other day about Foy, isn't he a Manchester United supporter anyway?

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                        Well if he was openly a Manc he wouldn't be allowed to take their games.

                        He's from St Helens
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                          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                          Well if he was openly a Manc he wouldn't be allowed to take their games.

                          He's from St Helens
                          I'm sure he's a Manchester United supporter.

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                            If that was a fact he wouldn't be allowed to ref their games. Has to be bull.
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                              Originally posted by Baracus View Post
                              so what would be the solution?

                              An Independent european referee body? PL takes referees from Spain, italy, germany and no english Ref is allowed to Referee a English Game? La Liga takes PL, Germany and Serie A referees, etc.

                              There is enough money in all the top leagues to allow it..
                              That might work for a while but sooner or later similar institutional corruption would occur. It always does.

                              I haven't given this any thought but off the top of my head...Transparency would be a start. Complete separation of judicial and organisational responsibilities. And neutral bodies (including the FA and referees organisations) should not be limited companies but paid for by a levy on all professional clubs and led by people without a financial interest in football.

                              And Gordon Taylor should have his lips sewn together.
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                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                                If that was a fact he wouldn't be allowed to ref their games. Has to be bull.
                                I'll find out, but I'm 90% sure he is. I know someone who used to referee at lower league level who knows him well.

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