Everton (A) Build Up Thread

[SB]

Johnson + Wisdom as fullbacks has to be preferable to a pairing with Enrique at this point, surely?

I'll go along with that.

[JohnDoe]

I'd make a small change for this game:

Reina/Jones
Wisdom Skrtel Agger Johnson
Allen
Shelvey Sahin
Sterling Suarez Gerrard

[SB]

I'd make a small change for this game:

Reina/Jones
Wisdom Skrtel Agger Johnson
Allen
Shelvey Sahin
Sterling Suarez Gerrard

Playing with 2 keepers is more than a small change IMO.

[danperkins]

Fellaini back fit is annoying, would have been such a massive loss for them, but Pienaar missing IMO is big too he has been outstanding for them this season.

Going to be a really tough game for us. The two back to back 1-0 wins have been great been we still can't finish games off when we are on top & we still look nervy at times defensively & seem to drop and concede space at the latter part of games.

Would be massive boost for us to win, 3 back to back wins could kick start our season....but i'd take a draw.

[RedReet]

Fellaini back fit is annoying, would have been such a massive loss for them, but Pienaar missing IMO is big too he has been outstanding for them this season.

Going to be a really tough game for us. The two back to back 1-0 wins have been great been we still can't finish games off when we are on top & we still look nervy at times defensively & seem to drop and concede space at the latter part of games.

Would be massive boost for us to win, 3 back to back wins could kick start our season....but i'd take a draw.

Don't know why, but decided to look back at our results in 05 when were were great at the back. For a 17 game period we only conceded 5 goals, 14 clean sheets. One of them was a CC game too when we conceded 2 with reserve players. That's crazy. **** we took so much for granted after that CL win.

[~LFCHistory~]

Fellaini back fit is annoying, would have been such a massive loss for them, but Pienaar missing IMO is big too he has been outstanding for them this season.

Going to be a really tough game for us. The two back to back 1-0 wins have been great been we still can't finish games off when we are on top & we still look nervy at times defensively & seem to drop and concede space at the latter part of games.

Would be massive boost for us to win, 3 back to back wins could kick start our season....but i'd take a draw.

I just hope that if we lose on Sunday people don't start claiming it's the end of the world. Rodgers is not only implementing a new style of play but he's also having to contend with being let down by the board in the summer transfer market and inheriting a squad overloaded with mediocrity thanks to Dalglish and DC. We're clearly improving but there will be set backs and Sunday could be one of them.

[nineteen]

This must be the first time in a very long time where Everton really do fancy themselves against Liverpool.

Those poor deluded clowns always fancy themselves against us.

Everton fans can look at their team at the moment and say 'I wouldn't take many Liverpool players in our side', which is always an interesting thing to do when you look at these games. Liverpool fans would take more Everton players at the moment.

Absolute nonesense. Looking at Everton's last matchday squad (Howard, Baines, Jagielka, Distin, Neville, Coleman, Osman, Pienaar, Jelavic, Mirallas, Anichebe - Mucha, Heitinga, Duffy, Oviedo, Hitzlsperger, Naismith, Gueye), I would want Baines and Jelavic (on current form) in the Liverpool squad. Add Fellaini too - would be a great addition. Is Lawrenson really suggesting that man for man, Everton have a better team? Deluded.

There are some positives for Reds fans though, mainly thanks to Raheem Sterling. The kid has been fantastic.

I thought that by now he might have plateaued a bit but he impresses me more every week. Andre Wisdom, the right-back who will probably end up as a centre-back, is another young player you don't want to hold back now because he has taken to the Premier League so well.

Finally, some common sense on display.

One problem for Liverpool with chucking in all these promising youngsters is that they have done well so far, but doing so consistently over the course of the season is completely different.

Remarkably similar to Hansen's oft-quoted "you don't win anything with kids" comment. Is it really that different when they are, apparently, taking the games one at a time?

Also, come Sunday, I can imagine there will be quite a few Liverpool players in their first Merseyside derby match.

You don't know how they will deal with it. Sometimes with these games, a player can go in not knowing anything about what they will face and they can breeze through it. Other times, and I saw it happen when I was a player, they think 'oh my god it's the derby' and they freeze.

More garbage ... derbies are derbies. I'd almost rather a player come in without any experience, at least then they don't get caught up in the hype and drama. The younger lads are more likely to just get on with it, and given the level of energy they have, they are ideally suited to last beyond the frantic early stages of the game.

You have to be ready because Merseyside derbies can be absolute madness. They don't often resemble a game of football because of the hype beforehand and the pace the game is played at.

No idea what he's on about here ... they always resemble a game of football. As I said, they're often frenetic and played at a high tempo for the first 20 minutes. Sometimes they're quite physical too, but they eventually settle down like all games.

This one will be no different. Everton have more quality but Liverpool are still difficult to beat, which is why I am thinking this will end up in a draw.

Prediction: 1-1

Way to play it safe there Mark. If Everton really have more quality then have the balls to back them. In reality, they're not a patch on Liverpool and their alehouse tactics and physical play will tire them out a lot quicker.

Prediction: 2-1 Liverpool.

[Rich]

I think you have to consider Everton favourites - playing at home and had a better start to the season.

However, we've started to become defensively stronger so hopefully that will help, and Gerrard ALWAYS ups his game against them. So I can see him scoring a couple for the win.

[souliv]

This is not the first time Everton were favourites but they seem to have a really mental block when it comes to playing us, so I would say we might actually have the advantage.

[Marina]

God Lawro is such a gob****e

[Mostar]

Tougher than Arsenal, City or United?

I don't think so.

The difference is that we play this one away and we played other 3 at Anfield but I agree it is difficult to separate them in terms which one is/was a tougher match-up.

I'd make a small change for this game:

Reina/Jones
Wisdom Skrtel Agger Johnson
Allen
Shelvey Sahin
Sterling Suarez Gerrard

I cannot see him starting after playing last night.

I think Rodgers spared Suso last night and he did that with intentions of starting him on Sunday.

[frank the tank]

I hope Suso is on the bench again....we need options that can possibly come on and change a game for us...

I'd like to see

Reina

Wisdom skrtel agger Johnson

Allen Sahin
Gerrard

Sterling Suarez assaidi

[SB]

We've just kept 2 clean sheets in a row with Jones in goal but people want Pepe back His forms been patchy at best & he's got a dodgy hammy but you still want him back? Strange.

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Jones

Wisdom
Skrtel
Agger
Enrique

Johnson
Allen
Sahin


Gerrard
Suarez
Assiadi...

[Liverpel]

David Moyes has launched a scathing attack on Luis Suárez and placed the Liverpool striker among a select band of players he fears will drive fans away from the game by "conning their way to results".

The Everton manager claims to be genuinely concerned that Suárez could influence the Merseyside derby at Goodison Park on Sunday through theatrics and not talent. Moyes's suspicion is based on the corresponding fixture last season when Jack Rodwell was sent off after 23 minutes for a clean tackle on the Uruguay international, who went on to seal Liverpool's 2-0 victory. "People talk about the sendings-off in these derbies [20 of them] without talking about the decisions," Moyes said. "Last year's one was a dive and a really poor decision by the referee. It ruined the game."

Asked if he fears a repeat in the 219th Merseyside derby, to be refereed by Andre Marriner, the Everton manager elaborated: "I do because I think he [Suárez] has got history. But I'm not the referee. What it will do is turn the supporters away from football because they [players who dive] are very good at it.

"It's a hard job for the referees, it really is, but it will turn supporters away from it if they think players are conning their way to results. People like to see things done correctly. Of course if the ball hits your hand you're going to claim for it and you're going to take every decision that you get going for you. But I don't think supporters like it when players are out to manufacture it."

Suárez has been at the centre of a diving controversy this season, as has Tottenham's Gareth Bale, with Tony Pulis calling for the Liverpool striker to be banned following an incident against Stoke. Jim Boyce, the vice-president of Fifa, joined the condemnation, but Brendan Rodgers has condemned the "vilification" of Suárez. The Liverpool manager expressed incredulity that the post-Stoke focus was on the Suárez dive and not Robert Huth stamping on the forward.

Moyes insists his criticism is "general" and not aimed specifically at Suárez. But he added: "I don't think there are many players out there who really do it. I don't think there is. But I would hope if I got one who did I would be big enough to say: 'Would you please stay on your feet and stop going down easy.' Supporters just don't like the thought of people going down easily. Everybody who has played football at any level would hate that in their game. People who play the game find it very hard to go along with."

The Everton manager was embroiled in similar controversy after signing Andrew Johnson but denies there is a comparison between the now QPR striker and Suárez. "Andy often got clipped because he got to the ball really quickly," he said.

Moyes also reiterated an appeal, one he first made after the 2006 World Cup, for the game's authorities to combat diving through retrospective punishment. "I'm of the view that retrospective viewing of diving should be more important than some of the technology they are talking about bringing in," he said. "I think it would make the referee's job an awful lot easier if that was there. If you do it and you get banned for it, it wouldn't take long before you cut it out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/26/everton-david-moyes-liverpool-luis-suarez

Arsehole.