Having a moan

[desertscouser]

thankyou, sammy.

[lfc4ever]

Rafa has a stubborn streak in him, he will play those off form, or out of position in order to prove a point, and more so if he brought them in.

[desertscouser]

Rafa has a stubborn streak in him, he will play those off form, or out of position in order to prove a point, and more so if he brought them in.

You reckon he'd play a ****e player or a player off form and risk defeat just to prove a point? Sorry, but I don't buy it. Only a complete idiot of a manager would do that.

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

You reckon he'd play a ****e player or a player off form and risk defeat just to prove a point? Sorry, but I don't buy it. Only a complete idiot of a manager would do that.

Yes he's no Ged.

Just look at what happened to Morientes and Josemi.

[lfc4ever]

You reckon he'd play a ****e player or a player off form and risk defeat just to prove a point? Sorry, but I don't buy it. Only a complete idiot of a manager would do that.

He has a stubborn streak in him, Moro last year proved that, Zenden is ****e in the middle this year, many other examples, yet he still persists in selecting them and trying to play them to get them into some sort of form, rather than dumping them to the reserves and making them fight their way back to the 1st team.

It might not be to the extreme of having to prove a point stubbornness, but to persist in keep selecting them to try & play them into form suggests some sort of streak of that nature.

[Kaip]

bugger

[CharlieMansonsSquint]

He has a stubborn streak in him, Moro last year proved that, Zenden is ****e in the middle this year, many other examples, yet he still persists in selecting them and trying to play them to get them into some sort of form, rather than dumping them to the reserves and making them fight their way back to the 1st team.

It might not be to the extreme of having to prove a point stubbornness, but to persist in keep selecting them to try & play them into form suggests some sort of streak of that nature.

Yes but Morientes had the quality to succeed, he just didn't adapt.

And who else avalible is there in our squad currently?

Lets face it, outside our top 12/13 players our squad is a tower of mediocrity.

[Red_Al_77]

We have to accept we aren't up to the standard of Arse, Manure, and Chelski. Rafa's record against them is awful. Something is painfully wrong and I'm fed up with the same crappy excuses.

[Marky]

Watch the first goal again. Zenden was at fault.

What about Riise and Gonzalez who failed to close down Hleb?

[kurtangle01]

We have to accept we aren't up to the standard of Arse, Manure, and Chelski. Rafa's record against them is awful. Something is painfully wrong and I'm fed up with the same crappy excuses.

we have to get stuck into them like we do at home. look at us when we played the scum in the f.a. cup last year and the arse on the last 2 seasons we've got stuck in roughed them up and then started to play our own game. we even tried it at old toilet last season to reasonably good effect, despite losing right at the end.

we have to adopt the home tatics away from anfield like we did last year.

[red g]

we have to get stuck into them like we do at home. look at us when we played the scum in the f.a. cup last year and the arse on the last 2 seasons we've got stuck in roughed them up and then started to play our own game. we even tried it at old toilet last season to reasonably good effect, despite losing right at the end.

we have to adopt the home tatics away from anfield like we did last year.

we are affraid to lose. not good enough

[Morph]

What about Riise and Gonzalez who failed to close down Hleb?

It was Zendens fault mate end of, Sami Hyypia as well at a push.

[Kaip]

It was Zendens fault mate end of, Sami Hyypia as well at a push.

[desertscouser]

We have to accept we aren't up to the standard of Arse, Manure, and Chelski. Rafa's record against them is awful. Something is painfully wrong and I'm fed up with the same crappy excuses.

Same here mate. I'm sick of the reds getting humiliated. We never used to lose 3-0...ever. We've now been spanked by that margin twice already this season and 2-0 twice against United and Bolton. What the **** is going on?! Simply not good enough.

[desertscouser]

It was Zendens fault mate end of, Sami Hyypia as well at a push.

It'sso f*cking clear.