West Brom post match

[tanner]

well, rodgers does try something different, in case you haven't noticed. the formation changed, we're a bit more direct in attack as well, we're trying to get more crosses in it seems.
the biggest problem for me is that many if not most of our players are not up to the required standard in terms of their mentality. you see so many lapses in concentration, players switching off and losing their man or misplacing easy passes.
it seems that one or two games of high intensity drains most of them mentally and thus the team as whole suffers.
i'm not sure it's something that can be changed other than replacing those players. i do cut the younsters some slack, mind. they might learn. i'm sure about the enriques of this world.

We're too lightweight and have too much medicority throughout the side. Couple that with world class players coming toward the end of their careers (and a big drop in form) and its easy to see why we are where we are.

People have been a little OTT on recent form, if you can call it that. The fact is over the last 8 weeks we've only beaten sides in the bottom 10 (QPR, Norwich, Fulham, but still also lost to the likes of Villa (who then conceded 12 goals in their next 3 games without return), Stoke and Oldham (albeit with a second string).

We held City to a draw and played well, but a lot of sides can raise their games against the top 3 or 4 clubs, we're not alone there. Whilst its nice to see us be competitive against one of the top sides, we need to look at it in perspective.

We're woefully inconsistent, lack guile and tenacity in key areas and seem to have developed a head down mentality when decent sides take the lead or equalise.

Its not particularly encouraging when you look at the whole picture, though I'm sure those of you happy with simply winning the passing game will disagree.

[Sarb]

We're too lightweight and have too much medicority throughout the side. Couple that with world class players coming toward the end of their careers (and a big drop in form) and its easy to see why we are where we are.

People have been a little OTT on recent form, if you can call it that. The fact is over the last 8 weeks we've only beaten sides in the bottom 10 (QPR, Norwich, Fulham, but still also lost to the likes of Villa (who then conceded 12 goals in their next 3 games without return), Stoke and Oldham (albeit with a second string).

We held City to a draw and played well, but a lot of sides can raise their games against the top 3 or 4 clubs, we're not alone there. Whilst its nice to see us be competitive against one of the top sides, we need to look at it in perspective.

We're woefully inconsistent, lack guile and tenacity in key areas and seem to have developed a head down mentality when decent sides take the lead or equalise.

Its not particularly encouraging when you look at the whole picture, though I'm sure those of you happy with simply winning the passing game will disagree.

You're post is a bit contradictory. On the one hand you're saying we only beat teams in the bottom 10. Then you say it's no major achievement that we can raise our game against a top team and many teams can do that but we flop in the lesser games. You can't really have it both ways can you?

We're inconsistent and defenders are making individual errors. And the last sentance is a load of bollocks. Every LFC fan wants to win the game. None of us are happy winning the stats for possession and passing. It's a boring line that is trotted out after every bad result. Just looks like some are using Rodgers idea of wanting to keep possession and pass as a stick to beat him with. I'm pretty sure he's never said I'd like to win possession stats more than 3 points the way you and many other fans make out.

[fred_plasticine]

We're too lightweight and have too much medicority throughout the side. Couple that with world class players coming toward the end of their careers (and a big drop in form) and its easy to see why we are where we are.

People have been a little OTT on recent form, if you can call it that. The fact is over the last 8 weeks we've only beaten sides in the bottom 10 (QPR, Norwich, Fulham, but still also lost to the likes of Villa (who then conceded 12 goals in their next 3 games without return), Stoke and Oldham (albeit with a second string).

We held City to a draw and played well, but a lot of sides can raise their games against the top 3 or 4 clubs, we're not alone there. Whilst its nice to see us be competitive against one of the top sides, we need to look at it in perspective.

We're woefully inconsistent, lack guile and tenacity in key areas and seem to have developed a head down mentality when decent sides take the lead or equalise.

Its not particularly encouraging when you look at the whole picture, though I'm sure those of you happy with simply winning the passing game will disagree.

i don't think we developed a heads down mentality and give in as soon as we concede. the longer a game that we dominate stays at 0-0, the more impatient we become. and yes, heads seem to drop if we concede late in the game after dominating it.
but again, it's down to the players mentality to keep going according to the game plan and not rush things.
and overall, our play is developing nicely. you can see the shape of things to come. but frail minds and silly mistakes constantly undermine every step forward.

[Captain Stu]

We played well for about an hour, had more than enough chances to comfortably win but didn't. Yet again. Masters of our own demise.

Miserable train ride home, three carriages full of pissed of reds all furiously tapping away at their phones.

[Tee]

****ing ****e, ****ing fuming it with that

We are a shambles, seriously we are...cause every single disappointing result, draws and losses, are identical..same ****ing **** every week...we are mentally and physically ****ing weak

We've tried to play this fancy football, and part of me appreciates it, trying to introduce a style and type of football we want to see, but it clearly isn't working for us and we don't have anywhere near the standard of quality to produce it, so Rodgers needs to swallow his pride and try something different, try and find a way of getting the best out of what we have

Johnson and Enrique were ****ing dreadful, just clueless in what they were trying to do, first touch was heavy, passing poor, and then consistently just ran into trouble and kicked the ball straight at the first man...they both looked pissed

We took off Henderson and downing who, although only average tonight, were are two best players!

Fabio borini comes on for half hour and I don't think he touched the ball except for a miss that looked like a sitter?? At least sterling came on at the same time and tried to get involved, tried to get the ball, borini is just a passenger

Completely ****ed off with Liverpool ATM...it was ****ing inevitable, I said it to a mate the other day, maybe on here as well, we play arsenal and city away and are unlucky to not pick up 6 points! But promising signs and you look at the next three games, west brom, Swansea and is it Wigan? And you think, hmmm a chance here to get a bit of run, go and get 3 wins from 3...but even before the match I said we'd prob take four...a win draw and loss...it's ****ing ****e

Disagree...there is a time and place for staying and singing YNWA, but every now and then the players, the club, need to know it wasn't good enough...I hope every single one of them involved, players and management, go home and have a ****ing terrible nights sleep full of images of watching the ground empty early, and it effects them so much that come back determined to never see it again!

Chances are tho, they'll sleep soundly tonight, in their mansions surrounded by luxury, whilst all is fans lie awake thinking where the **** did it go wrong and what do we need to do to sort it

Sums it up for me.

Fast falling out of love with this game.

[tanner]

You're post is a bit contradictory. On the one hand you're saying we only beat teams in the bottom 10. Then you say it's no major achievement that we can raise our game against a top team and many teams can do that but we flop in the lesser games. You can't really have it both ways can you?

We're inconsistent and defenders are making individual errors. And the last sentance is a load of bollocks. Every LFC fan wants to win the game. None of us are happy winning the stats for possession and passing. It's a boring line that is trotted out after every bad result. Just looks like some are using Rodgers idea of wanting to keep possession and pass as a stick to beat him with. I'm pretty sure he's never said I'd like to win possession stats more than 3 points the way you and many other fans make out.

Its not contradictory at all, I simply mean a one off game against a top side in which we played well is not worth getting carried away by. We need to be regularly taking points off clubs from bottom to top, not inconsistently taking 3 points in encounters only with the bottom half, otherwise you end up sitting mid table, like we are.

Individual errors Thats the new line being spouted out as an excuse now I see. Its funny that the "individual errors" seem to be spanning throughout the entire squad

And your last sentence, no ****.

[Captain Stu]

Its not contradictory at all, I simply mean a one off game against a top side in which we played well is not worth getting carried away by. We need to be regularly taking points off clubs from bottom to top, not inconsistently taking 3 points in encounters only with the bottom half, otherwise you end up sitting mid table, like we are.

Exactly.

What good is outplaying Arsenal and City away if you then lose badly to Villa and West Brom at home?

[Shaggy]

Exactly.

What good is outplaying Arsenal and City away if you then lose badly to Villa and West Brom at home?

Even the players/manager said they're only good draws provided we win the next match. Yet again we've lost. It's a waste of time and undermines any perceived progress we'd made.

[Captain Stu]

These are the matches we need to focus on when the season finishes - how are we making Benteke look like Benzema? How did Stoke systematically dismantle us?

[Sarb]

Its not contradictory at all, I simply mean a one off game against a top side in which we played well is not worth getting carried away by. We need to be regularly taking points off clubs from bottom to top, not inconsistently taking 3 points in encounters only with the bottom half, otherwise you end up sitting mid table, like we are.

Individual errors Thats the new line being spouted out as an excuse now I see. Its funny that the "individual errors" seem to be spanning throughout the entire squad

And your last sentence, no ****.

Appreciate the clarification

You're right. There were plenty getting carried away by the Man City result and Arsenal. Both felt like defeats to me to be honest. 2 nil up v Arsenal and totally hammered City and came away with a single point.

I don't think the individual errors is a new line or excuse. Defenders are making them for sure. Agger has made as many if not more than Skrtel. Not even doing the basics of defending and Reina is too easy to score against. Individual errors are being made but need to look at the reason as well. I don't think we even train to defend set pieces it looks like and that is probably one of the contributing factors

Crap result and saw it coming

[Sarb]

These are the matches we need to focus on when the season finishes - how are we making Benteke look like Benzema? How did Stoke systematically dismantle us?

Something wrong with the mentality of the players I'd say. Not sure. Can't put my finger on it. Going forward we are great. On the back foot, defending, we are amateurish, and that is putting it mildly

[Captain Stu]

Something wrong with the mentality of the players I'd say. Not sure. Can't put my finger on it. Going forward we are great. On the back foot, defending, we are amateurish, and that is putting it mildly

There must be an element of that but sadly it's one of the things we know **** all about. It could be that training focuses so much on attacking and keeping the ball that little work is done on what happens if we lose the ball and get pressed.

Or it could be players not listening, etc... could be dozens of things. Whatever it is - it's hugely demoralising and yet another huge thing that needs to be addressed with our limited budget.

[Sarb]

There must be an element of that but sadly it's one of the things we know **** all about. It could be that training focuses so much on attacking and keeping the ball that little work is done on what happens if we lose the ball and get pressed.

Or it could be players not listening, etc... could be dozens of things. Whatever it is - it's hugely demoralising and yet another huge thing that needs to be addressed with our limited budget.

With the Sky money in the Summer, we'll have a decent wedge to spend if it's ploughed back into the team as FSG say it will be.

Goalkeeper, 2 CB's and Left back. On first glance that's what we need. But if we don't pay much attention to defending in training, it isn't really going to help

[Tee]

We are a soft touch in CM and this causes us massive problems at the back. The CBs are exposed all too often and the fact our full backs also like to push on leaves us massively susceptible to counter attacks.

There is no doubt Lucas needs far more game time to get anywhere near his best again. But I still think he is a better option than Allen, with whom I have to be honest and say that I have been massively disappointed with.

It is depressing when I see how much money we have spent yet again on players who are showing that they are not good enough. Too early to judge? Maybe, but at the same time we praise players like Sturridge who have started in sensational style it is clear that we have several who are simply short of the quality a club like ours needs (in order to compete).

Borini and Allen cost a combined £26m. Unbelievable really. I think we will need some massive surgery again this summer and for the first time I have to be honest and say I am starting to have doubts about BR himself. I am just not sure that as a club we can afford to grow with this young Manager and suffer the inevtible mistakes he is going to make on his journey. This club is going to suffer in a manner that could be more damaging than we realise, and I would go so far to say that right now we do not even need a new stadium or stadium expansion. All our efforts should be concentrated on the team, and I honestly think an experienced DoF is an absolutel must to help BR this summer; I would even go so far to say that if he feels he cannot work under a DoF we should look at bringing a new Manager in.

[Rich]

There must be an element of that but sadly it's one of the things we know **** all about. It could be that training focuses so much on attacking and keeping the ball that little work is done on what happens if we lose the ball and get pressed.

Or it could be players not listening, etc... could be dozens of things. Whatever it is - it's hugely demoralising and yet another huge thing that needs to be addressed with our limited budget.

I think FSG have proven that we're not paupers - they've bankrolled Rodgers.

He just hasn't bought any defenders!