Fair points. Also, I would recommend watching him for the Ludogrets equaliser, oh my days it was embarrassing watching his movement.
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I don't know about this one. Phil Jagielka (ffs) is lining up a blast from the edge of the box in injury time in the derby, is he going to try and keep it low and on target, or is he going to smash it at the top corner with curve to take away from the keeper in a Fowler-esq fashion? As a keeper I'd probably want to play the percentages and set myself as well as possible for the low drive to stand the best chance of saving the points. So we can think of three goals that a keeper could maybe have got to if he'd done better, but there is not a keeper in world football you couldn't say that about.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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The shot was well placed but if a goal keeper sees the ball all the way he's got to make adjustments and save it.Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
Hes not playing well at the moment and needs a break to find a bit of form. Players form changes but its up to the management to find another solution.Comment
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I don't know. Dropping a keeper isn't usually a good way for him to regain his confidence and/or form. Who do we have to replace him at the moment? I think we're either stuck with him in the hope he improves or get a proper replacement then just sell him.Originally posted by alonso14 View PostExperimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam ladComment
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I appreciate Gary Neville's chat, but he can get it wrong. I think Kenneth's along the right lines in that he's expecting a shot low and hard. Maybe Mignolet needs bend in his knees to get that height. I agree with Tee that he's not had the best start to the season, but for pointing the finger for not saving a worldie is harsh.Originally posted by alonso14 View Post
The goalkeeping position is such a thankless task. One mistake and it can be punished severely. Pull off a great save and it's considered 'the basics'. Mignolet is young, this experience will certainly be a test of his character.Comment
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Its the worst position. For an hour youre doing next to nothing and then all of a sudden youre expected to perform miracles. Everyone makes mistakes but goal keepers mistakes nearly always end in goals.Originally posted by Muddled View Post
As you say hes still young but can a keeper change most of his game to 'reinvent' himself as some thing hes never been throughout his life. Can he be trained to use his feet better and make better judgements when he comes off his line.Comment
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United did that with de gea for some games. He came back into the team and hasn't looked back.Originally posted by Venton View PostComment
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That's true, although he'd just come from another league and needed time to adjust. I'm not sure what Mignolet's excuse is on that front. On the whole I think when keepers go they go. And there's no room for sentiment in that position, it spreads like wildfire. When the keeper starts raising his skirt and running round the box the next minute the whole defence is seeing the Madonna in the fields and fainting away.Originally posted by alonso14 View PostExperimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam ladComment
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Have to look at his coach too. Some would say he's not improved, others would say he's got worse. Then there's Reina, was one of the best but regressed. Was it due to age or was it because he too was coached by a man who may well not be up to the task for a top level team.Comment
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Meh, I like ratface as a pundit, but his criticism of Mig is neither here nor there. It's very easy to pick a fault in a game then trawl through the whole of last season to find two goals where the keepers stance was the same. Your talking about split second stuff, IMO mig is trying to get the best view possible and that's about it. It was a thunderbolt strike, they go in more times than not, no matter who is in goal. I haven't been the Migs biggest fan of late, most LFC fans haven't, Nevile has tried to latch onto that train. So meh, he makes mistakes but, in fairness he cannot be blamed for that goal.Comment
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It's actually a very good assessment from Neville. Surprised he didn't mention why he just didn't use his left arm rather than come across with his right? Not sure if someone has mentioned this previously about him? It was a fabulous strike to be fair from Jagielka and hard to really blame Mignolet but Neville does bring up some valid points IMO.Comment
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Because Mignolet has gone with the correct hand. Red_Polo has much pretty much nailed it in the post match thread.
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Not sure why anyone would think the lower hand and the furthest one away from the ball would be the correct hand to go with. He went with the correct hand imo. It was a worldie but he should never have been allowed the time and space to get that shot away. We were too deep. Interesting analysis from Neville and something to look out for. I've. It been overly impressed with Mig since we signed him and nothings changed for me. He's been very ropey since he ****ed up in the City and Chelsea away games last season. Great shot stopper etc that's the minimum you should be expecting from a keeper.
Not sure Valdes is the answer either but options seem thin on the ground.Last edited by G; 30-09-14, 07:42 AM.Comment
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Mignolet was low so he could get maximum spring, Neville can say what he likes, but Schmeichel in his prime wouldn't have saved that imho.
Too much over analysis of things these days.Comment
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So is Mig better than Reina?
Is Valdes really any better?
Who else is there? And are we still ruining good goal keepers when they've been with us for a year or more?Comment
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