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    We’ve Taken Manchester City’s Scouts ...

    ... and now we’ve recruited Manchester United’s PR team.

    A summer of promise. This was the transfer window Brendan needed to put his own stamp on the team; an opportunity to build on the promising end to the 2012/13 season. After a hiccup the previous summer, our recovery in January highlighted an improved infrastructure and a line of communication between Liverpool and the US of A. We’d surely see players of a similar ilk to Sturridge and Coutinho arriving at Anfield and talk of transfer budgets being between 20 and 30 million *with* sales was being touted around the forums.

    An early flurry of activity saw four players come in as we threw £23,584,000 out of the club. That was quickly recouped through the sales of Shelvey and Carroll and we were back to spending nothing.

    Then the PR machine kicked in to gear.

    Henrikh Mkhitaryan was close to joining Liverpool! As it transpired, he’d been a shoo-in for Dortmund before the transfer window had even opened. We never even faxed a figure to Shakhtar Donetsk or had the opportunity to get him sat around a table.

    Diego Costa was our next target parped the media. As quickly as it spread through the various newspapers like wildfire, it was dampened down by the news that Costa was not interested and the fire put out completely when we learned that he had penned a new contract with Athletico Madrid.

    Then Anzhi Makhachkala announced their fire sale - Willian could be available for £30m. Rodgers was clearly interested and went to FSG, cap in hand - ‘please sir, I want some more’. ‘MORE?’ screamed* John Henry. No shrapnel went in to the cap and we had to announce that the valuation of the player was different to our own and another target went by.

    It was at this point that frustration got the better of Rodgers and it spilt out in to the press conference. After taking some time to gather his thoughts and regain his patience, the external façade was back to pleasantries and smiles.

    Rodgers’ bezzie approaches him and says that he is keen to off-load Mata and Moses. Rodgers again asks FSG for funds and realises that he can’t even begin to consider Mata as an option. As he has got £2m left in cash that he has generated from sales, Moses on loan is the only option. Brendan confides in Jose and they set about chatting about Moses. Mourinho – who we know can’t retain his water – mouth farts in a press-conference that Rodgers needs backing financially.

    And that’s where we are - surrounded by smoke and mirrors. A local press (Echo) keen to protect FSG and the club; a national press (The Times, Tony Barrett) with a finger on the pulse in Merseyside who is aware of the situation, but not restricted to writing only positive pieces (but unfortuantely allowing his passion to get the better of him) and details of the above deals coming out in the overseas media.

    There were snippets floating around that Suarez needed to be sold to finance other deals ... I now believe that to be true. After a 2012/13 year in which Rodgers was backed with £50m+, it was inevitable that FSG had to claw some of that money back (and the previous season too). FSG had their pockets burned by Kenny and Comolli, but I do believe that they have now gone beyond cautious.

    They’ve played a blinder with their PR and after a summer transfer window of smoke and mirrors, where does that put the club and the direction it wants to go in? Where is the so called 'TV money'? Is our future spending what we generate?

    * This may be a slight exaggeration.

    ** When they suddenly blitz £30m on Jim White Day, please feel free to burn this thread.

    *** I nearly went with a thread title of 'A Summer of Discontent' ... that would have been better, right?

    #2
    "I will make the boys feel your support"
    Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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      #3
      This threads going to be interesting

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        #4
        I share your frustrations, but lets see what happens this week. Fingers crossed!
        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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          #5
          I think we're over analyzing how much we spend, instead of focusing on how we're going to achieve 4th place. Yes spending is part of the solution but nowhere near the be-all or end-all of it.

          Edit: And I cite manure and Arsenal as evidence.
          One tit for another.

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            #6
            Mdudeld

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              #7
              Originally posted by BigChief View Post
              I think we're over analyzing how much we spend, instead of focusing on how we're going to achieve 4th place. Yes spending is part of the solution but nowhere near the be-all or end-all of it.

              Edit: And I cite manure and Arsenal as evidence.
              We have the smallest squad in the Premiership and even then, it is a squad bulked up by youngers - highlighted by us having the second youngest squad (on average) in the Premiership.

              Fourth can be achieved by having a strong first eleven that is bolstered by strength in depth. As our squad stands, do you think it is capable of a sustained challenge for fourth?

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                #8
                Or is the reality that most teams have more targets than they can get and unless you are Real or Barcelona then big name signings don't come off more often than they do? My feeling this summer has been that 90% of the problem is with the obsessive fans view rather than anything wrong with the way the club has conducted its business.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                  I think we're over analyzing how much we spend, instead of focusing on how we're going to achieve 4th place. Yes spending is part of the solution but nowhere near the be-all or end-all of it.

                  Edit: And I cite manure and Arsenal as evidence.
                  Man Utd and Arsenal (maybe to a lesser extent now ) are near shoe-ins for top 4 every season - they are not playing catch-up like us. Massive difference to our situation, and as I eluded to in another thread, if they were out of the top 4 you would see them shelling out big time to close the gap and get back in.

                  It is clear we are not that far away from having a very strong first team, we just need those elusive 1 or 2 genuine quality players. Not the likes of Victor Moses. Jeez.
                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                    We have the smallest squad in the Premiership and even then, it is a squad bulked up by youngers - highlighted by us having the second youngest squad (on average) in the Premiership.

                    Fourth can be achieved by having a strong first eleven that is bolstered by strength in depth. As our squad stands, do you think it is capable of a sustained challenge for fourth?
                    What is our average squad height and how does this measure up to the other clubs

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                      #11
                      4'6"

                      Voles are quite small, and we've a shed load of them..........apparently.
                      "I will make the boys feel your support"
                      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        Or is the reality that most teams have more targets than they can get and unless you are Real or Barcelona then big name signings don't come off more often than they do? My feeling this summer has been that 90% of the problem is with the obsessive fans view rather than anything wrong with the way the club has conducted its business.
                        It's not a slur on our transfer activity or the way we've conducted our business - I think our early transfer activity has been decent. I agree that the majority of teams will have a list of targets and the money-men will work their way through that list. However, I'm of the opinion that we were never in for those players listed and Rodgers hasn't been given the funds to overhaul the squad.

                        I believe that's Rodgers' project is much harder than first anticipated.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                          What is our average squad height and how does this measure up to the other clubs
                          Whaay!

                          181cm. This measures (I gotit!) up well against other Premiership sides.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                            It's not a slur on our transfer activity or the way we've conducted our business - I think our early transfer activity has been decent. I agree that the majority of teams will have a list of targets and the money-men will work their way through that list. However, I'm of the opinion that we were never in for those players listed and Rodgers hasn't been given the funds to overhaul the squad.

                            I believe that's Rodgers' project is much harder than first anticipated.
                            I just don't see how we have any evidence for a view that we were never 'really' in for these players.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                              Whaay!

                              181cm. This measures (I gotit!) up well against other Premiership sides.
                              Impressive snooping for the details

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