Spot The Difference

[Muddled]

Summer 2013

• Gareth Bale leaves Spurs for a hefty sum.
• Spurs splurge in the transfer market bringing in numerous signings.
• The team can’t gel and the Spurs stutter and start and stall through the season

Summer 2014

• Luis Suarez leave Liverpool for a hefty sum.
• Liverpool splurge in the transfer market bringing in numerous signings.
• To be confirmed.

Tottenham, meet Liverpool. Liverpool, Tottenham. Charmed I’m sure.

[chadrtc]

Summer 2013

Gareth Bale leaves Spurs for a hefty sum.

Spurs splurge in the transfer market bringing in numerous signings.

The team can’t gel and the Spurs stutter and start and stall through the season

Summer 2014

Luis Suarez leave Liverpool for a hefty sum.

Liverpool splurge in the transfer market bringing in numerous signings.

To be confirmed.

Tottenham, meet Liverpool. Liverpool, Tottenham. Charmed I’m sure.

There is a key difference though... Brendan Rodgers.

[red g]

There is a key difference though... Brendan Rodgers.

was just about to post the same. they spent a fortune without any idea of stystem or how it would work, proper scattergun approach. It would appear we know what and who we are tagetting this summer.

[PTP]

yeah disagree to be honest - the comparisions are there and it's an obvious one however i'd argue that we are a bit more stable/better run and i don't think there is a much of a change in our direction if suarez goes....

ie -

With/Without Suarez.....

we were going to sign
a lb (moreno?)
a cb (lovren?)
a cm (can)
a am (lallana)
a forward (lambert)


we knew we had a small squad, that needed strengthing in a few areas and these areas needed additions regardless of suarez staying or going and would be makes us a stronger team

Now it looks certain suarez is going - all it means to me is we need to find a really good attacking player to soften the blow (Sanchez would certainly do that).



Spurs - well they were a bit different - they knew the Bale money was coming in and so they just seemed to go and buy any 'exciting prospect' they could

[Muddled]

There is a key difference though... Brendan Rodgers.

Andre Villas Boas had previous success with Porto, was an innovative, young, upcoming manager and even he couldn't get the team functioning as one. Brendan Rodgers took Liverpool on a title challenge as Manchester United were going through transition, Chelsea were re-building an expensively built squad and Spurs lost their best player. What makes you think he's the difference here?

[Muddled]

was just about to post the same. they spent a fortune without any idea of stystem or how it would work, proper scattergun approach. It would appear we know what and who we are tagetting this summer.

I'm sure Spurs thought the same. An upcoming winger, a solid midfielder, a creative midfielder and spread their Bale goals amongst several players.

[Muddled]

Spurs - well they were a bit different - they knew the Bale money was coming in and so they just seemed to go and buy any 'exciting prospect' they could

Surely Origi, Can and Moreno are all 'exciting prospects'?

[Alex]

Andre Villas Boas had previous success with Porto, was an innovative, young, upcoming manager and even he couldn't get the team functioning as one. Brendan Rodgers took Liverpool on a title challenge as Manchester United were going through transition, Chelsea were re-building an expensively built squad and Spurs lost their best player. What makes you think he's the difference here?

Rodgers seems to know how he wants to play, and can adapt from that.

I had similar reservations the other day, but it was reasoned to me that the players were brought in at spurs with no cohesive plan. Just sort of throwing players at AVB.

[PTP]

Surely Origi, Can and Moreno are all 'exciting prospects'?

that wasn't my point....

we were going to sign the likes of Can/Moreno regardless of Suarez staying/going because we needed an extra midfielder in the squad to give us more energy and we need a good left back.

Spurs - didn't seem to have any prior interest in Erikson/lamela/chadli and god knows who else they signed and it 'appeared' to be more of scatter gun approach of signing anyone they could once they knew bale was off

[Alex]

Say we had a wadge of cash and Sanchez.

Who would we spend the cash on? My guess would that £50m wont get you much in the way of value after this world cup.

Personally think we will continue with the planned purchases, and sit on the money until the right player comes along.

[Muddled]

Say we had a wadge of cash and Sanchez.

Who would we spend the cash on? My guess would that £50m wont get you much in the way of value after this world cup.

Personally think we will continue with the planned purchases, and sit on the money until the right player comes along.

£50m would get you Sanchez, Markovic, Origi and Moreno.

We'd need our own war-cheast to fund Lallana, Can, Lambert and Lovren.

Sure, it will be funded by sales but that's nearly half a new starting eleven right there.

Too much change?

[PTP]

another way to look at it is something i did a while back before there was hint of barca coming from him...

realistically (being the key word here cause we don't have City's billions to go and just buy anyone) we had pretty solid starting XI and but not so good options from the bench. If our starting XI next season is

mignolet

johnson
skrtel
sakho
moreno

gerrard
henderson
lallana

sterling
sanchez
sturridge


whilst ok the 'no suarez' looks a big hole, there is still 3 very good attacking players - sterling keeps improving as will sturridge plus lallana gives us extra creativity and you'd argue a year on with more experience from a title challenge, that the defence/keeper could be better....

so it's not that bad - the problem we had last year was lack of quality options to cover/compete for places...

add

reina?

flanno
lovren
agger
enrique

lucas
can
allen

coutinho
lambert
borini (for arguments sake as he's a better option than Alberto/Aspas/Moses)


then i for one would be pretty confident about next season and would argue we'd better overall especially when you factor in Suarez would miss about 10 games anyway.



personally i'm over it - **** him - maybe after the Torres thing i've become a bit more hardened to it and didn't get as attached to Suarez.

he was class us, we had two and half is it? excellent seasons from him - i enjoyed watching him - however there is an arguement that he'd have to go some way to replicate that form over the next couple of years, especially in a new team/set up. I'll also add he's been a complete cunt during his time (biting/evra/god knows what else)


so to sum it up, i could take or leave it if i please and you could do the same thing if you choose

[Alex]

£50m would get you Sanchez, Markovic, Origi and Moreno.

We'd need our own war-cheast to fund Lallana, Can, Lambert and Lovren.

Sure, it will be funded by sales but that's nearly half a new starting eleven right there.

Too much change?

Ones I highlighted wont be starters I dont think. Probably add Lovren to that too.

Too much change is bad, but we have a small squad in terms of quality. So any additions are welcome IMO. They just need to be managed in well.

Brendan has shown he is both great at that with Sterling, and terrible with players like Aspas and Borini. So who really knows.

One thing I am positive about, is that its a brilliant time to be a Liverpool fan again.

[PTP]

£50m would get you Sanchez, Markovic, Origi and Moreno.

We'd need our own war-cheast to fund Lallana, Can, Lambert and Lovren.

Sure, it will be funded by sales but that's nearly half a new starting eleven right there.

Too much change?

Why is it too much change???? -

Origi will be going out on loan so won't have any influence on next season.

We want/need Moreno/Lallana/Can/Lambert/Lovren - regardless of Luis Suarez!

Are you suggesting that if he stayed - and we signed those five players that it would be too much change and we'd struggle???


The only 'change' would be - we lose a world class player, top 3 in the world and replace him with a very good player (sanchez or whoeever) but have a stronger squad

[PTP]

Say we had a wadge of cash and Sanchez.

Who would we spend the cash on? My guess would that £50m wont get you much in the way of value after this world cup.

Personally think we will continue with the planned purchases, and sit on the money until the right player comes along.

if we get the other players in that we need/budgeted for (ie left back/centre half) and we had sanchez...

well to be honest i don't think i'd look for anyone else unless someone came available that we couldn't turn down