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    #16
    Originally posted by Slim
    Its probably bollocks - let hope so anyway. As Shaggy says , Wenger doesn't let players go who go on to achieve big things at other Premiership clubs.
    These are the type of cheap sub-standard players we have been signing for far too many years. It has to stop.
    I agree mate. It's starting to get a little embarrassing now. The fact that we're even linked with mediocrity like Upson shows that we're not where we want to be as a club. I doubt United or Chelsea would ever be linked with a player of Upson's calibre.

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      #17
      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer
      If we sign him I give up.
      you'll give up your job?
      Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
      'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

      "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

      * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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        #18
        Realistically though.
        All Upson would be is cover, unless he could force his way into the team with some solid performances, He wont get in IMO ahead of Agger and Carra to quickly, so he would be brought in as cover. And at 27 and coming into his prime, I dont think he would be a terrible signing. Not as if we can afford to go splashing out on uropes top Centrehalves for cover. Sammi must surely be in his last season or damn close to it. I dont think it would be a terrible signing.
        Id rather see us spending our big money on exciting attacking players anyway, not cover for the centre back positions.
        Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
        'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

        "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

        * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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          #19
          Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
          I always felt it was relevant and pertinent that Wenger had decreed Pennant wasn’t good enough and bombed him out.

          Same goes for Upson. I am SICK of buying ****e.
          ShaggyAlonso in talking sense sensation !!!

          only joking Shags - I totally agree.
          Liverpool born and bred.

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            #20
            Prefer Woodgate.
            Upson's not a bad player, he's very good on his day but i'm not sure if he's quite got what it takes at a top 4 side.
            "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
            Tupac

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              #21
              Originally posted by bazza76
              you'll give up your job?

              no, bothering to pay watch us.
              Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                #22
                Dont see why we would want him now that we have Agger and the Pal. Good player and is left footed probably a squad player but wouldnt get into the first team
                When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by bazza76
                  Id rather see us spending our big money on exciting attacking players anyway, not cover for the centre back positions.

                  I totally agree.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                    I always felt it was relevant and pertinent that Wenger had decreed Pennant wasn’t good enough and bombed him out.

                    Same goes for Upson. I am SICK of buying ****e. Please let’s not sign him. [Gaffney]Please. Please. Please. Please.[/Gaffney]
                    I kind of though that the reason Pennant was let go from Arsenal was his attitude. I was willing to believe tha this had improved when he moved to us, so far he hasn't done anything wrong in that regard. He hasn't however performed as yet so maybe Arsene just thought he wasn't going to develop but I'm still holding out hope.

                    Upson is a different story. I think he is a decent, but not great, player and would fit Rafa's style of defence better than Wengers. However he is injury prone and I think if no in defensive system, certainly in physical attributes we should look at the Arsenal and Man Utd defence. Both of those sides have defences who will put out at least 3 outstanding athletes with pace and strength. Upson is no athlete and in my opinion is too similar to Carra to make a good purchase. Still if he came I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
                    Last edited by dww; 17-11-06, 01:20 PM.
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      #25
                      Its time we started buy "World Class" player and stop been cheapo's sick of it
                      When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc
                        Its time we started buy "World Class" player and stop been cheapo's sick of it
                        To be fair I think we need to get a squad of players together who are all capable of playing the way Rafa wants. In order to do that we need to sign at least three more players (Assuming that Sami is on his way out) even assuming that Pennant and Gonzalez settle.

                        I think we will see a pattern like this year for the next few years where we buy one big signing (Kuyt) and gamble on two or three others. The problem this year was that the Pennant gamble was really a bit too costly (unless the terms of the deal are better than I have been led to believe). I think we will see a shift next season to the gambles being younger players - more Agger/Palletta type signings. Upson if he does come in would be nothing but a stop gap. As such at the right price we could probably sell him in a year with no loss.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          #27
                          I take your points dww.

                          but should we really be looking in the championship for players if we want to make a challenge for the Prem and Champs league
                          When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc
                            I take your points dww.

                            but should we really be looking in the championship for players if we want to make a challenge for the Prem and Champs league
                            I dont think he would be brought in as a regular first teamer, but more of a squad player.
                            Agger and Carra are good enough for a challenge on the Premier League IMO.
                            Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                            'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                            "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                            * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by bazza76
                              I dont think he would be brought in as a regular first teamer, but more of a squad player.
                              Agger and Carra are good enough for a challenge on the Premier League IMO.
                              They will next year i think to fine players
                              When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc
                                They will next year i think to fine players
                                Yeah, im really excited about seeing more of Agger, I honestly think he will be a better defender than carra. Has all the attributes to be one of the worlds best.
                                Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                                'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                                "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                                * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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