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    Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
    Obviously faulty ones if they don't see him dally on the ball and get himself into a mess due to his criminal one-footedness.
    Except the evidence suggests that isn't the case.
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      Originally posted by Chris View Post
      They have eyes.

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        I think he's a great passer and good on the ball, but I don't understand how come people completely ignore some of the **** ups he does... Last year vs. Chelsea if I remember correctly, how many times did he give the ball away right in front of our penalty area?? Nobody seemed to mind then.
        Still, he's our best defender and a million years ahead of Lovren.

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          Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
          Obviously faulty ones if they don't see him dally on the ball and get himself into a mess due to his criminal one-footedness.

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            Originally posted by Daffy Duck View Post
            I think he's a great passer and good on the ball, but I don't understand how come people completely ignore some of the **** ups he does... Last year vs. Chelsea if I remember correctly, how many times did he give the ball away right in front of our penalty area?? Nobody seemed to mind then.
            Still, he's our best defender and a million years ahead of Lovren.
            Truth is somewhere in the middle. Sakho is better than Lovren but not better than Skrtel. He can also look clumsy on the ball but he reads the game well and his passing isn't that bad.

            Ideally, we need better than Lovren and Sakho.
            Another MASSIVE game

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              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              Except the evidence suggests that isn't the case.
              Because it is in no way possible to select stats that help prove a point
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              Football without Origi is nothing

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                Defensive errors last season:

                Sakho: 2
                Skrtel: 5
                Lovren: 6

                We need to be looking for a forward thinking and proactive partner for Sakho.

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                  Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                  Because it is in no way possible to select stats that help prove a point
                  According to statistics, Stewart Downing is both very good and very ****. We all know the truth.
                  Another MASSIVE game

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                    Moreno in the europa league.

                    Not a chance on this planet that Lovren is better than Sahko, I still think Sahko is our best defender, there are a lot of misconceptions about him that come from the Sky crowd though.
                    The times they are a changin'.

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                      Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                      Because it is in no way possible to select stats that help prove a point
                      Evidently.

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                        We need to win this and banish last season's result. This is the perfect game to wipe the slate clean and move on from last season.

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                          Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                          Defensive errors last season:

                          Sakho: 2
                          Skrtel: 5
                          Lovren: 6

                          We need to be looking for a forward thinking and proactive partner for Sakho.
                          Indeed

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                            Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                            Because it is in no way possible to select stats that help prove a point
                            The issue is you made a statement that is inconsitent with the evidence says. Stats have their value so long as they are used correctly and can show where bias affects perspective.
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                              If that team is correct, Powder puff midfield.
                              Stoke will put a couple of reducers in the first few minutes and the midfield will disappear in to their shell.
                              We need a DM who will shield Lovren and Skrtel, don't get why Rodgers doesn't buy one.
                              He’s here! I *know* he’s here! That’s him, I’m telling you that’s him! You hear me? I’m telling you it’s *Keyser Soze*!

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                                Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                                The issue is you made a statement that is inconsitent with the evidence says. Stats have their value so long as they are used correctly and can show where bias affects perspective.
                                Nothing I have said is inconsistent with the evidence. I said he is one-footed and quite frankly if you are going to argue this then you are utterly mental. Not even misty eyed dreaming over Suarez sublime ability to use either foot. Sakho is ****ing crap with his right foot. 100% fact.

                                I said he dallies on the ball and gets himself into a mess. He does. Instead of securely passing the ball to a team mate he takes a bloody age and invites the opposition closer than they should be (perhaps that is why he has to pass the ball backwards 50% more than Skrtel)...

                                It is a visual analysis of the game rather than trying to rely on a number on paper. Much like how people say Skrtel has crap positioning is a visual observation and not a reliance on a stat.
                                Football without Origi is nothing

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