Joe Gomez

[Irishnev]

that sounds ****in terrible; feel for Joe.

what was the pod BTW?

It was the Fatigue Index on Anfield Index - Simon Brundish (a sports scientist) and Marty Loughran (high performance physio)

[S-RED]

cool, is it any good as a podcast normally?

[Baracus]

�� our own Ledley king

[Norbs]

A bit harsh on Southgate. It's the authorities which are to blame.

Not sure I agree mate. We were threadbare in defence and Southgate picks the squad. He was not long back from injury, and playing more for club than he should. I suppose our club should shoulder some of the blame for allowing him to be available for selection

[Fredo]

Not sure I agree mate. We were threadbare in defence and Southgate picks the squad. He was not long back from injury, and playing more for club than he should. I suppose our club should shoulder some of the blame for allowing him to be available for selection

[dom9]

Not sure I agree mate. We were threadbare in defence and Southgate picks the squad. He was not long back from injury, and playing more for club than he should. I suppose our club should shoulder some of the blame for allowing him to be available for selection

I think some of this is moot tbh.

It was a training session, by all accounts he jumped, landed badly and ****ed his knee.

Had he not been training with England, he would have been training with Liverpool. He wouldn't have had the week off. And it's the kind of injury that could happen at any time.

It's just really ****ty luck that it happened at all.

[dizzycat]

I really feel for him. Can only wish him luck for a good recovery.

[Norbs]

I think some of this is moot tbh.

It was a training session, by all accounts he jumped, landed badly and ****ed his knee.

Had he not been training with England, he would have been training with Liverpool. He wouldn't have had the week off. And it's the kind of injury that could happen at any time.

It's just really ****ty luck that it happened at all.

Could argue that just because you have a car crash in London, doesn't mean you would've still had one if you'd stayed in Liverpool

But I won't

[greenturnip]

I'm not a sports scientists or physio - but I presume the tendon was 'weak' in some sense before the injury - so it was a matter of time. I also don't know whether soft tissue scans might reveal such a weakness - or whether it's impossible to detect them. It's **** for him, that's for sure. Fingers crossed he gets back on the pitch for us, alongside Virge. Would hate to think that partnership reached its peak in 2018/19 and then ended due to injury.

[dom9]

Could argue that just because you have a car crash in London, doesn't mean you would've still had one if you'd stayed in Liverpool

But I won't

That isn't my point at all though.

My point was that him being on England duty was coincidental to the injury happening. It's just where he happened to be when it happened.

If the injury was caused by fatigue, then it could just as easily happened while training at Melwood / Kirkby or playing for LFC or England.

Had the internationals not been taking place this week, the players would have been training anyway. They wouldn't have had a holiday.

[Norbs]

[Mark79]

That isn't my point at all though.

My point was that him being on England duty was coincidental to the injury happening. It's just where he happened to be when it happened.

If the injury was caused by fatigue, then it could just as easily happened while training at Melwood / Kirkby or playing for LFC or England.

Had the internationals not been taking place this week, the players would have been training anyway. They wouldn't have had a holiday.

They wouldn’t have had a holiday, but the training and recovery is monitored and tailored at Liverpool. Whereas with England it seems to be everybody turns up and gets chucked straight in.

We can’t blame the entire schedule on England, but if he’d been at Liverpool with 2 fixture free weeks ahead of him, I’m sure he’d have been afforded more recovery time from his recent playing schedule. Whether or not that would have ultimately made any difference though, who knows.

[Irishnev]

I'm not a sports scientists or physio - but I presume the tendon was 'weak' in some sense before the injury - so it was a matter of time. I also don't know whether soft tissue scans might reveal such a weakness - or whether it's impossible to detect them. It's **** for him, that's for sure. Fingers crossed he gets back on the pitch for us, alongside Virge. Would hate to think that partnership reached its peak in 2018/19 and then ended due to injury.

The lads mentioned body fatigue and load will be a big factor - Joe has a history of big injuries and given the volume of games he has less recovery time. Definitely a factor

[Irishnev]

cool, is it any good as a podcast normally?

I like the site - good variety of pods - heavy on stats and sports science which I like. There is a weekly show with Jan Molby which is also excellent

[frank the tank]

i fear it could be the beginning of the end for Joe too. That would be terrible because he has so much potential. Also seems like a really nice guy.

Fingers crossed he will be back