Bournemouth (H): Post Match

[Lecter]

A change to the offside rule for the upcoming season is expected to lead to more disallowed goals and more anguish for fans.

The new tweak, effective in both the Premier League and all three divisions of the Football League, dictates that if a player makes a move towards the ball while in an offside position - even if they don't touch it - then they will be ruled offside.

This would mean that if one player took a shot on goal and another stuck out a leg, the goal would be disallowed even if that second player made no contact whatsoever with the ball.

The amendment, which has flown somewhat under the radar in the off-season, is designed to help goalkeepers and clear up the confusion that reigned in February when Juan Mata's free kick curled its way beyond everyone and into the corner of the net against Stoke City.

United man Marcos Rojo was in an offside position when he attempted to head the ball into the opposite corner, thus forcing Asmir Begovic to delay his dive, but was not flagged by the officials. In the same situation next season, Mata's goal would be chalked off due to Rojo's intervention - even though he didn't make contact.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/the-offside-rule-changes-explained--6271834

[McDermotX]

It's most definitely offside, and if the ref and linesman were more on their game they should have rightly disallowed it. They certainly didn't judge Coutinho as not interfering IMO....they just missed it.
Offisde is all ****ed up in the modern game.......the very fact that they're on the pitch means they're interfering with play....defenders are always conscious of what's around them regardless of whether they're 'involved in the immediate play. By that definition, they're interfering. Modern rules are only in place to give advantages to attacking play.
As for their 'goal'.......see a lot of them disallowed, but you also see goals given, such as Sanchez' only the other day, which wasn't far off. We just got the rub of the green last night. Lovren's motion downwards after being caught underneath it gave the decision our way, I think. Wasn't like he was wrestled down.

[Rich]

I think both were very good decisions and applaud the referee for having the mental strength to make them so quickly.

Elphick clearly had his hands on Lovren's shoulders. When you do that in the box you run the risk of getting called against. That offence is not called enough, but that doesn't make it any less illegal.

The new offside rule will be a headline maker all season. It comes down to whether the ref felt Coutinho's actions affected the opponent. Rightly, he decided they didn't and let the goal stand.

Well done Mr. Pawson.

You can clearly see Boruc making a move as he anticipates that Coutinho might connect with the ball. Therefore he's offside under this new interpretation.

As for their disallowed goal, I think it was soft. You'll see plenty ruled out for similar, and plenty allowed to stand.

[Nicey]

Re Lallana ... I could not beleive I got it so wrong about his performance and took a look at his opta stats ... he had 84% pass completion rate completing 37 out of 44 passes compared to Ibe's poultry 12 out of 15 giving him a 80% rate, he made two interceptions, two clearances and won the ball back 5 times opposed to Zero tackles from Ibe Zero interceptions zero clearances, He drew 2 fouls and made 2 fouls opposed to Zero again from Ibe ..... But Jordan Ibe is Sexy and Lallana is a cunt ... People need to get off his back, he is not as bad as a lot of people are making out ..

He had a good game and contributed throughout the game in my books, he got my man of the match

[DannyMan2006]

It may have been mentioned elsewhere. But......

Last night Benteke was the lone front man. Ibe was wide left and mainly stayed there to stretch the play and give us width. He was asked to track back. Lallana was behind Benteke, but so far back it was obvious he was more of a midfield player as opposed to being an attacker or number ten. More a number 8 if you like.

Then there was Coutinho. Placed on the right but license to come central and he very rarely tracked back. Although Lallana was positioned behind Benteke, clearly it's Phil who was given instruction to support more than Adam.

Before I go on, have to say Milner was incredible in helping out Clyne support the right hand side. His energy allowed us to leave Phil forward. Anyway.....

Did anyone notice that the shots always fell onto Phils left foot? Well imagine this now: Coutinho where Lallana was. Sturridge where Phil was. I seriously think this is what the plan is. Of course dependant on who we play we may switch this up, maybe Can playing in midfield and Phil moving into the front three, but I see the idea and i have to say I like the sound of it.

[Nicey]

It may have been mentioned elsewhere. But......

Last night Benteke was the lone front man. Ibe was wide right and mainly stayed there to stretch the play and give us width. He was asked to track back. Lallana was behind Benteke, but so far back it was obvious he was more of a midfield player as opposed to being an attacker or number ten. More a number 8 if you like.

Then there was Coutinho. Placed on the right but license to come central and he very rarely tracked back. Although Lallana was positioned behind Benteke, clearly it's Phil who was given instruction to support more than Adam.

Before I go on, have to say Milner was incredible in helping out Clyne support the right hand side. His energy allowed us to leave Phil forward. Anyway.....

Did anyone notice that the shots always fell onto Phils left foot? Well imagine this now: Coutinho where Lallana was. Sturridge where Phil was. I seriously think this is what the plan is. Of course dependant on who we play we may switch this up, maybe Can playing in midfield and Phil moving into the front three, but I see the idea and i have to say I like the sound of it.

I am pretty sure Ibe was on the Left and Lallana was on the right

[DannyMan2006]

Re Lallana ... I could not beleive I got it so wrong about his performance and took a look at his opta stats ... he had 84% pass completion rate completing 37 out of 44 passes compared to Ibe's poultry 12 out of 15 giving him a 80% rate, he made two interceptions, two clearances and won the ball back 5 times opposed to Zero tackles from Ibe Zero interceptions zero clearances, He drew 2 fouls and made 2 fouls opposed to Zero again from Ibe ..... But Jordan Ibe is Sexy and Lallana is a cunt ... People need to get off his back, he is not as bad as a lot of people are making out ..

He had a good game and contributed throughout the game in my books, he got my man of the match

I think both played okay. But:

1. Both played different positions & it was more Adams job to help out defensively in that central area. Ibe was asked to stay wide and stretch the play.

2. One is a kid and cost virtually nothing. The other is the opposite really and will of course be compared to a higher standard by fans.

[DannyMan2006]

I am pretty sure Ibe was on the Left and Lallana was on the right

Coutinho was on the right mainly. On occasion players mixed it up, Ibe on the right at one point etc, but default was as I said. That's how I saw it.

[RedReet]

Re Lallana ... I could not beleive I got it so wrong about his performance and took a look at his opta stats ... he had 84% pass completion rate completing 37 out of 44 passes compared to Ibe's poultry 12 out of 15 giving him a 80% rate, he made two interceptions, two clearances and won the ball back 5 times opposed to Zero tackles from Ibe Zero interceptions zero clearances, He drew 2 fouls and made 2 fouls opposed to Zero again from Ibe ..... But Jordan Ibe is Sexy and Lallana is a cunt ... People need to get off his back, he is not as bad as a lot of people are making out ..

He had a good game and contributed throughout the game in my books, he got my man of the match

They were both poor and that rightly has been the general consensus.

[DannyMan2006]

Sorry, saw my error. Ibe was left, don't know why I said right at the start!

[DannyMan2006]

They were both poor and that rightly has been the general consensus.

I think both did the job what was asked and as such were okay. Neither did anything spectacular. With the squad we have players have to produce and id say both are on a tightrope.

[RedReet]

I think both did the job what was asked and as such were okay. Neither did anything spectacular. With the squad we have players have to produce and id say both are on a tightrope.

Ibe completed 12 passes (yes 12), created one chance and did very little defensively. I hope to God he was asked to do more than that otherwise I'm going to get on to Brendan and recommend myself for teh Arsenal game.

[baitman]

with cout starting on the right he came inside onto his left foot for his shot. he does better of the left, then drifting inside onto his right foot.

whats brendan and his coaching staff doing these days. their table tennis must be **** hot

[calvoboy]

Re Lallana ... I could not beleive I got it so wrong about his performance and took a look at his opta stats ... he had 84% pass completion rate completing 37 out of 44 passes compared to Ibe's poultry 12 out of 15 giving him a 80% rate, he made two interceptions, two clearances and won the ball back 5 times opposed to Zero tackles from Ibe Zero interceptions zero clearances, He drew 2 fouls and made 2 fouls opposed to Zero again from Ibe ..... But Jordan Ibe is Sexy and Lallana is a cunt ... People need to get off his back, he is not as bad as a lot of people are making out ..

He had a good game and contributed throughout the game in my books, he got my man of the match

Both were poor overall though Lallana had a good last 20 mins. Pass completion stats can be incredibly misleading when taken in isolation. I remember years ago Des Walker was the best passer of a ball in the premiership according to the stats - in fact he was a terrible passer of the ball, but knowing his limitations all he ever used to do is pass it 10 yards to Stuart Pearce at left-back.

[Shaggy]

Ibe's poultry

What have Jordon Ibe's chickens got to do with anything?