Loris Karius

[Buzzo]

It also doesn't help that we seem incapable of having the same 2 CBs fit for more than one game at a time.

[G]

Mig was so good he got dropped for Brad ****ing Jones! Karius might not be the answer, it's too early to be certain of that as De Gea showed but Mignolet most certainly is not the answer either.

[RichC]

Mig was so good he got dropped for Brad ****ing Jones! Karius might not be the answer, it's too early to be certain of that as De Gea showed but Mignolet most certainly is not the answer either.

[G]

Must be great to know stuff for *certain* after a very short space of time. After Burnley we were bums who'd do nothing in the league and after a handful of games in a new league behind a defence thats rarely settled Karius is ****e and needs binning.

[poorscousertommy]

I think people are forgetting about Mig and pretty much every shot he faces goes in. Karius was poor today as were a number of them, Mignolet is certainly no better though

Mig is a FAR better shot stopper than Karius has shown so far.

[Fredo]

The thing is, this is all irrelevant. Before that second half showing we showed we could win games without conceding. Any goalkeeper would suffer if you allow teams to get on top of you. We lost today because collectively we weren't good enough second half, not because of Karius or Lucas or the back four.

[Daniel 7]

He's ****ing **** and we'll never win the league with someone that bad in goal. He's no better than Mignolet, he spreads panic and he's not going to work out long term.

If it was possible, I'd get rid of him ASAP. Keepers can make or break a team, and this one is utter ****.

[RichC]

He's ****ing **** and we'll never win the league with someone that bad in goal. He's no better than Mignolet, he spreads panic and he's not going to work out long term.

If it was possible, I'd get rid of him ASAP. Keepers can make or break a team, and this one is utter ****.

I'd start a thread about being in decline

[Daniel 7]

Mig is a FAR better shot stopper than Karius has shown so far.

Karius was brought in because Mignolet stopped saving shots. Its the same with him now - shots come in and he doesn't make saves. He also has bizarre body language when facing players down on a one on one - that rush out and weird star jump is just bad.

He's the Lazar Markovic of goalkeeping.

[Daniel 7]

I'd start a thread about being in decline

I fancied a ruck that night - it never really developed

[Shaggy]

He looks **** doesn't he

Still can't believe what happened today.

[G]

I'd start a thread about being in decline

[Daniel 7]

You agreed

[Exiled_red]

He looks **** doesn't he

Still can't believe what happened today.

I can and I can't, as soon as they scored their first goal you could see them getting something, when they got it back to 2-1 I thought it would finish 2-2. But I was hoping the days of us capitulating like that were over.

[Exiled_red]

It also doesn't help that we seem incapable of having the same 2 CBs fit for more than one game at a time.

I think that our CBs keep getting missing games because their stock is never higher than when they miss a game or two Last season it was Sakho now it's Matip