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    BrExit..what it means for us?

    So, what is the long term impact (i wouldn't imagine there would be a short term impact in the epl, am sure contracts would be honoured as such..)? Does that mean it's going to cost us more to get a foreign based player? What happens to EU players and the like in our club/league moving forward? work-permit ramifications? etc etc

    Discuss...

    #2
    Prem clubs have seen their income jump by far more than the 9% Sterling has fallen by and if you consider the "Prem Proven" rule adds at least 50% to a player of comparable quality from the Eurozone then it still makes sense to shop overseas if you're after a player from one of the Continental leagues. Work permits are another matter but obviously we have players from South America etc so it's not insurmountable. What will happen I think is that eventually the domestic youth development market will become more important
    Last edited by redmike65; 24-06-16, 10:31 AM.

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      #3
      I would imagine the FA / PL will be quick to uphold the current rules to keep EU players in the premiership teams - otherwise English football and the ridiculous money will regres quickl!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Darkon View Post
        I would imagine the FA / PL will be quick to uphold the current rules to keep EU players in the premiership teams - otherwise English football and the ridiculous money will regres quickl!
        That's just the players but their families will be constantly hassled at airports regarding immigration authorities etc.
        Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Angryred View Post
          That's just the players but their families will be constantly hassled at airports regarding immigration authorities etc.
          Do you think Aine Coutinho is held up in long queues and fiddled with?!

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            #6
            I don't think there will be a massive impact. You only have to see the impact every african cup of nations.

            They're not in the EU, it doesn't stop their players coming to EPL.

            European players will still count as UEFA quota for CL/EL so there's still an advantage over other nations.

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              #7
              Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
              I don't think there will be a massive impact. You only have to see the impact every african cup of nations.

              They're not in the EU, it doesn't stop their players coming to EPL.

              European players will still count as UEFA quota for CL/EL so there's still an advantage over other nations.



              An awful lot of those players would have already being playing in a different EU country before moving to the EPL, so they would have gotten work permits and/or citizenship etc already before their UK move.


              But on Brexit I don't see their being much change in the short to medium term as the EU leaving process takes a minimum of two years from the date it is applied for and it will be up to Cameron to make that application. He could well leave it until just before he officially steps down as PM so it will be at least mid to late 2018 or 2109 before the UK is offically out of the EU.
              Last edited by Doc_Piptorious; 24-06-16, 12:19 PM.
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                #8
                Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
                Do you think Aine Coutinho is held up in long queues and fiddled with?!
                When Mascherano was at Liverpool, one of his gripes was that his family were held up for ages in the immigration queues at airports coming into the UK so would have thought that the status quo would not have changed!

                The status quo being the rules have not changed, not the family still at the airport!!!!
                Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                  #9
                  Everton and Liverpool FC - what leaving EU means for player recruitment.

                  Brexit could mean a different approach to youth development for Everton and Liverpool following the referendum result.

                  Britain's exit from the European Union is set to have a big impact of the youth recruitment policy of Everton and Liverpool .

                  The two Merseyside clubs have been warned they could now end up missing out to continental sides in the battle to land young Euro talent.

                  A top sports lawyer has claimed that Brexit will see an end to the Reds and Blues cherry-picking under-18s talent from clubs on the continent.

                  Carol Couse, of law firm Mills and Reeve – noted for their work in sport – says leaving the EU will have a profound effect on youth recruitment.

                  Fifa rules forbid clubs from signing players from other countries until they are 18, but an exception is that players can move freely within the European Union at the age of 16.

                  That rule - article 19 - will now not apply to UK clubs meaning young European talent will be subject to the same work permits rules as those outside the EU.

                  Without it Everton would not have been able to sign young stars like Mateusz Hewelt, Shkodran Mustafi , Francisco Junior, or highly rated current u-18s striker Miko Virtanen, who is from Finland and joined the academy aged 16.

                  While the Reds would have been denied the chance to pick up exciting talents like Sergi Canos , Pedro Chirivella, or Suso.

                  Says Ms Couse: “The Article 19 exemption is fundamental to how UK clubs acquire young talented and cost-effective players.

                  “Investing heavily in talented under-18 players is the ultimate low-risk, high-reward strategy.

                  “Given the low cost of acquisition and the amount of money it would cost to acquire a high-calibre player on the transfer market, a club needs only a very small percentage of young players to develop into a successful professional footballer in order to see a positive return on its investment.

                  “Naturally, losing the Article 19 exception would have adverse consequences for UK clubs. It is crucial for clubs to sign talented players they have identified at the earliest possible occasion, so as to limit their acquisition costs and boost their profits in the event of a subsequent sale of a young talent they have developed.”

                  If the UK joined the European Economic Area - which would mean signing up to many EU agreements - article 19 could still apply.

                  Some argue a restriction on young European players gives a welcome boost to young British hopefuls in the UK system.

                  But Ms Couse claims Brexit hands back the advantage in youth recruitment to clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona.

                  Leaving the EU could also affect the signing of senior players, although Everton and Liverpool are less likely to be affected by that than smaller clubs.

                  Brexit will restrict UK footballers from freely moving to European clubs and, more significantly, place new restrictions on incoming transfers.

                  Top international players would not be affected, as Ms Couse says it would be “unfathomable” that such players would not receive the clearance from the FA required to get a work permit.

                  Players currently playing in the UK are unlikely to be affected until their current contract expires, but at that point they may need to re-apply for a work permit.

                  http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-liverpool-fc-what-leaving-11520379#rlabs=3%20rt$category%20p$2

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                    #10
                    It's all right cause we're going with a point system like Australia
                    Go **** yourself

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                      #11
                      “Given the low cost of acquisition and the amount of money it would cost to acquire a high-calibre player on the transfer market, a club needs only a very small percentage of young players to develop into a successful professional footballer in order to see a positive return on its investment.
                      They make it sound sooooo easy don't they! So few actually make the step up for whatever reason
                      Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                        #12
                        The last thing I ****ing care about in relation to leaving the EU is the behemoth Premier League.

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                          #13


                          Skysports news ticker earlier had Cameron resigning turn to 501 and West Ham bidding £24m for some lad playing for Marseille.

                          Completely different world.

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                            #14
                            While the Reds would have been denied the chance to pick up exciting talents like Sergi Canos , Pedro Chirivella, or Suso.
                            So we wont be taking young players, doing nothing with them, and then selling later on? I could probably survive that.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by vlahka View Post
                              So we wont be taking young players, doing nothing with them, and then selling later on? I could probably survive that.
                              Yeah [emoji110] [emoji97]

                              This rule could even benefit us, as I think the only young talent we have wasted the past 10 years have been local... okay there were no world beaters, but the savings on squad playets would have been considerable.

                              Although *now* we probably have the best scouting team in Europe just in time for the rule change
                              Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                              Everton and Liverpool FC - what leaving EU means for player recruitment.

                              Brexit could mean a different approach to youth development for Everton and Liverpool following the referendum result.

                              Britain's exit from the European Union is set to have a big impact of the youth recruitment policy of Everton and Liverpool .

                              The two Merseyside clubs have been warned they could now end up missing out to continental sides in the battle to land young Euro talent.

                              A top sports lawyer has claimed that Brexit will see an end to the Reds and Blues cherry-picking under-18s talent from clubs on the continent.

                              Carol Couse, of law firm Mills and Reeve – noted for their work in sport – says leaving the EU will have a profound effect on youth recruitment.

                              Fifa rules forbid clubs from signing players from other countries until they are 18, but an exception is that players can move freely within the European Union at the age of 16.

                              That rule - article 19 - will now not apply to UK clubs meaning young European talent will be subject to the same work permits rules as those outside the EU.

                              Without it Everton would not have been able to sign young stars like Mateusz Hewelt, Shkodran Mustafi , Francisco Junior, or highly rated current u-18s striker Miko Virtanen, who is from Finland and joined the academy aged 16.

                              While the Reds would have been denied the chance to pick up exciting talents like Sergi Canos , Pedro Chirivella, or Suso.

                              Says Ms Couse: “The Article 19 exemption is fundamental to how UK clubs acquire young talented and cost-effective players.

                              “Investing heavily in talented under-18 players is the ultimate low-risk, high-reward strategy.

                              “Given the low cost of acquisition and the amount of money it would cost to acquire a high-calibre player on the transfer market, a club needs only a very small percentage of young players to develop into a successful professional footballer in order to see a positive return on its investment.

                              “Naturally, losing the Article 19 exception would have adverse consequences for UK clubs. It is crucial for clubs to sign talented players they have identified at the earliest possible occasion, so as to limit their acquisition costs and boost their profits in the event of a subsequent sale of a young talent they have developed.”

                              If the UK joined the European Economic Area - which would mean signing up to many EU agreements - article 19 could still apply.

                              Some argue a restriction on young European players gives a welcome boost to young British hopefuls in the UK system.

                              But Ms Couse claims Brexit hands back the advantage in youth recruitment to clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona.

                              Leaving the EU could also affect the signing of senior players, although Everton and Liverpool are less likely to be affected by that than smaller clubs.

                              Brexit will restrict UK footballers from freely moving to European clubs and, more significantly, place new restrictions on incoming transfers.

                              Top international players would not be affected, as Ms Couse says it would be “unfathomable” that such players would not receive the clearance from the FA required to get a work permit.

                              Players currently playing in the UK are unlikely to be affected until their current contract expires, but at that point they may need to re-apply for a work permit.

                              http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-liverpool-fc-what-leaving-11520379#rlabs=3%20rt$category%20p$2
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