Champions League 2017/18

[Darkon]

if we can't beat the Hoffs, then we don't deserve to be in the CL......

We've gotta little to do in the group game if we can't beat Hoffenheim, 4th placed from a league that besides Bayern have been pretty poor overall last season.

Hoffenheim only lost 4 league games last season.

Yeah, they were quite good but they also failed winning a lot of matches in a league full of very average sides last season. We basically just have to win one of the games, and we stand a good chance at that.

Add to that they've lost to of their best defensive players to Bayern and I'm not all that worried tbh.

They have that super young manager don't they? 29 year old or something like that?

Yep, Nagelsmann turned 30 I think now, so not that young Done really well and were linked with other clubs but stayed put thus far.

[Darkon]

They lost Sule so that's a bonus.

And Rudy!

[labourRed]

Last beaten team in Europe. Should be weaker this season but still being hard to beat is a good trait in Europe where you don't have to win to progress in a knockout.

[Norbs]

Klopp's coped in matches against Bayern and Dortmund, admittedly only in friendlies. I think he'll relish it more than a tricky game against a nobody

[danperkins]

Happy enough with that draw Hoffenheim are average. They lost Rudy and Sule this window and Volland in recent times... Marko Marin is their star player ffs. They are bang average and we really should be beating them

[Irishnev]

They lost Sule so that's a bonus.

and Rudy so that is two major players from the spine of their team, they have added Gnabry though who is v good.

[labourRed]

Happy enough with that draw Hoffenheim are average. They lost Rudy and Sule this window and Volland in recent times... Marko Marin is their star player ffs. They are bang average and we really should be beating them

Who?

I'd say their front two are the danger ones as well as Serge Gnabry.

[BigChief]

Who?

I'd say their front two are the danger ones as well as Serge Gnabry.

We were linked with Marin a long time ago.

[Fosterbloke]

Sule, Rudy and Volland are gone. They won't be as fit as us either.

[ChesterDave]

Bump. Nearly there. Just picking a couple of teams for Telegraph Fantasy Europe

[Fosterbloke]

Nolito is out