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    #5821
    Originally posted by Tribute View Post
    ...apart from his assist and scoring that absolute worldie, he could have been a cardboard cut-out in the second half. As a senior player in the team on a shedload of money, I'd expect him to raise his game and others around him. Mind you, he certainly did that with Nacho...

    He is an attacking player and he did what he was supposed to do.

    If one wants to look at senior players who capitulated and tried to hide when things went wrong then VVD, Roberston, TAA, Gomez, Henderson and Fabinho should be questioned before the one outfield senior player who did his job.

    Plenty of those names got recent pay rises. Did not see any game raisers amongst them.
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      #5822
      Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
      He is an attacking player and he did what he was supposed to do.

      If one wants to look at senior players who capitulated and tried to hide when things went wrong then VVD, Roberston, TAA, Gomez, Henderson and Fabinho should be questioned before the one outfield senior player who did his job.

      Plenty of those names got recent pay rises. Did not see any game raisers amongst them.

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        #5823
        Not sure Vvd did a lot wrong, tbh.
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          #5824
          Originally posted by Charly View Post
          Not sure Vvd did a lot wrong, tbh.
          Really? He's pretty much backed away from attackers all season. His form is ****e. I think he's finished. We'll the version we are used to. This is like a 3rd tier virgil.
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            #5825
            Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
            Nacho, a journey man CB was put at LB when Alaba was taken off. He absolutely pocketed Mo…….that is pretty damning
            He's literally been at Madrid since he was 10...he's now 33. He's the absolute antithesis of a journey man

            He's also a very good defender, always has been. Just not a flashy name so never got high praise.
            "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

            "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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              #5826
              Originally posted by Harv View Post
              He's literally been at Madrid since he was 10...he's now 33. He's the absolute antithesis of a journey man

              He's also a very good defender, always has been. Just not a flashy name so never got high praise.
              Meh Harv…..pedantic, I know Nacho is a lifer there and actually quite under rated - I used the term in reference that it wasn’t one of their high priced acquisitions that stopped him but rather a “utility player” being played in arguably his worst position

              Point taken and I’ll be more specific going forward

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                #5827
                The original definition of a journeyman is someone who’s reliable but not outstanding.

                The sports use is a semantic change popularised by people talking the ‘journey’ part too literally
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                  #5828
                  Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                  The original definition of a journeyman is someone who’s reliable but not outstanding.

                  The sports use is a semantic change popularised by people talking the ‘journey’ part too literally
                  So you agree with my original usage as well…..

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                    #5829
                    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                    So you agree with my original usage as well…..
                    Yes, it’s the ‘real’ meaning of the word.

                    The other is basically a misuse that became so common that it’s now accepted, but that doesn’t make the original wrong.
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                      #5830
                      Just to be clear ...

                      A journeyman is someone who is along for the journey, without affecting the journey itself?

                      That would be someone who spends a lot of time on the bench and probably pushing 30.
                      In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                        #5831
                        That’s a new one.

                        It’s someone who can do a job but isn’t outstanding at it.

                        Journey comes from the French for ‘day’ - journée.
                        A Journeyman man was someone who’d charge for days work, usually a craftsman or tradesman.

                        In sports, it’s come to mean someone who’s played for a lot of teams.
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                          #5832
                          Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                          The original definition of a journeyman is someone who’s reliable but not outstanding.

                          The sports use is a semantic change popularised by people talking the ‘journey’ part too literally
                          Why put journey in there at all then. Daft.
                          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                            #5833
                            Originally posted by Harv View Post
                            Why put journey in there at all then. Daft.
                            Screw you Harv….I knew I was right

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                              #5834
                              Wage thief.

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                                #5835
                                Just coming to post that, money grabbing ****head ... Hahaha

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