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    Originally posted by labourRed View Post
    Jaap Stam's book had a lot to do with it i reckon. Later Fergie said it was one of his biggest **** ups.
    that's it - the book

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      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
      I think Virgil but from a United perspective I always thought Stam was the best of them. Did it ever come out what happen with Fergie - he was superb in Italy in the years that followed
      I was going to suggest Stam but when I checked he only played 60 odd Premier League matches! If he'd stayed he'd definitely have been up there. He was a beast.

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        Phil Jones has to be in with a shout.
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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          Winning the Prem would help Virgil's case....

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            Originally posted by spud_gun View Post


            Better than Ferdinand?

            Nah, and I don't think it's even close tbh
            It's very close to be fair, it was between Terry and Ferdinand for me. Say what you want about Terry but he was a world class CB.

            As for VVD, he looks like nothing anyone has seen in a CB but it is still early days for him in his LFC career, he also has another 7 or 8 years left in him. Terry and Ferdinand played hundreds more games in top class prem sides that won the league several times. Virgil is world class and the best CB in the world the last year. Can only see him getting better.

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              The thing about those two is that there was a profile of forward that troubled them considerably. With van Dijk, he deals with them all and their style doesn't seem to matter. Small, nippy fox in the box types; big powerful target men etc. He adapts and handles anyone, there's not really a weakness or something obvious which can be exploited yet.

              I would agree with Jaap Stam as being an all round superb player, but when you speak of Premiership players, he is pretty much the equivalent of Virgil for us in terms of games and achievements (other than winning the league multiple times). In terms of influence on the team and the CL runs etc. If we won the league this season then flogged him abroad for disgusting cash their legacies would be similar, although that would be ignoring what Virgil did at Southampton. Either way, I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon and has to be in the discussion among the better modern day players.

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                If virgil helps us win the league, then he will be catapulted into the greatest Liverpool players of all time. He could be in the top 10 pretty much overnight

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                  Most passes today with 121, 96% completion. Insane

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                    With more than 400 managers, players and media representatives voting for the best men's player (each selecting a first, second and third choice), Cristiano Ronaldo remarkably found common ground with Mauritania captain Abdoul Ba and his Eswatini counterpart Dlamini Banele.

                    How, you may ask? Well, they were the only three people to select Netherlands defender Matthijs de Ligt as their first pick for player of the year.

                    Was it a case of tactical voting from Ronaldo, who managed to exclude winner Lionel Messi from his top three? Or just a show of solidarity for his current Juventus team-mate?

                    In the 2018 voting Ronaldo also omitted his old rival Messi, instead favouring former Real Madrid colleague Raphael Varane.

                    Messi did include Ronaldo as his second pick behind Sadio Mane. The other main candidate for the men's player award, Virgil van Dijk, went with Messi ahead of his Liverpool team-mates Mohamed Salah and Mane.
                    "I will make the boys feel your support"
                    Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                      Isnt this just the **** version of best player, with the "proper" ballon d'or in december?
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        5 real Madrid players in the fifa world 11 despite Real being absolute ****e this year. Show what these awards really are for me. Nothing but a Madrid Barca wankfest.

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                          Yeah have to agree with that, it's embarrassing.

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                            Amazing how many players didn't have Van Dijk in their top three, even without the blatant corruption (Son voted for Harry Kane )

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                              Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
                              Amazing how many players didn't have Van Dijk in their top three, even without the blatant corruption (Son voted for Harry Kane )

                              https://as00.epimg.net/descargables/...7577f498c6.pdf
                              It's always the same in this. I'm not sure Messi or Ronaldo have ever voted for each other when clearly they've been the best player. It's political. Meh.

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                                Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                                5 real Madrid players in the fifa world 11 despite Real being absolute ****e this year. Show what these awards really are for me. Nothing but a Madrid Barca wankfest.
                                I don't think I can even name 5 Madrid players that play any more. Bale, Kroos, Ramos...
                                One tit for another.

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