Spurs home build up (inc Spurs Utd)

[Nicey]

Very simple to fix with video technology... hopefully we are on the right path.

Look at Rugby Union for instance... for me their whole refereeing and video technology should be the world standard:

The ref is mic'd up so we all know what he is saying and thinking.

The players have to show respect to the ref, can end up with 7 week bans for any swearing or verbal abuse (plus if the ref is mic'd they players have to stop swearing etc)

The ref is not the ****ing be all and end all when it comes to decisions, the video ref can tell him to take a look at things or he can tell the ref what has/hasn't happened or what should/shouldn't happen.

There are always big screens so the crowd can see what they are seeing.

As regards to diving and cheating the ref... if on review the ref and video ref both agree if it is or it inst, then they go with that decision. It is open to interpretation but it will eliminate a lot of diving as players will now it is being reviewed.

Punishment for diving is a yellow. Multiple cautions for yellows over a season/competition warrant a more severe punishment... like 2 yellows for diving = 1 match ban... 3 = 2 match ban etc etc

The diving would soon ****ing stop.

My daughter plays Rugby, most Sundays I am up at the crack of Dawn to take her to Tournament or training and for 6 hours I am standing, chatting with parents from the opposition, our coaches referee games totally unbiasedly, people on the sidelines applaud good play regardless of its your kids team or not for the most part and at then end of every game regardless of what beating has been dished out or taken, the teams shake hands and each and every player thanks the Ref. People share a beer, and watch Rugby the sport that they all collective enjoy, there is soo much respect in the game. Then I go home and watch Match of the Day... and see grown men wince when players brush by them, when my 9 year old has taken more hits in one day than they will in an entire season. I cant help mysellf I am a hopeless football Junkie but by god when you move away from the beautiful game just a bit and all the nonsense around makes me cringe. ******s like Pogba and now we have that other bellend Evra to enjoy week in week out.
We have all talked about it ad nauseum and it does seem like the game is moving in the right direction with goal-line technology and VAR has potential if they can iron out the creases but undermining the whole thing is the playacting which goes on now and you are almost forced to do it because if you dont you are putting your team at the disadvantage.

[Fosterbloke]

This is the bull**** grey area. The pass was to him directly... he was in an offside position and he benefited from being in the offside position, which should make it an offside offence....

Referees somehow manage to differentiate between intentional and unintentional back passes so why not this?

[Fosterbloke]

My daughter plays Rugby, most Sundays I am up at the crack of Dawn to take her to Tournament or training and for 6 hours I am standing, chatting with parents from the opposition, our coaches referee games totally unbiasedly, people on the sidelines applaud good play regardless of its your kids team or not for the most part and at then end of every game regardless of what beating has been dished out or taken, the teams shake hands and each and every player thanks the Ref. People share a beer, and watch Rugby the sport that they all collective enjoy, there is soo much respect in the game. Then I go home and watch Match of the Day... and see grown men wince when players brush by them, when my 9 year old has taken more hits in one day than they will in an entire season. I cant help mysellf I am a hopeless football Junkie but by god when you move away from the beautiful game just a bit and all the nonsense around makes me cringe. ******s like Pogba and now we have that other bellend Evra to enjoy week in week out.
We have all talked about it ad nauseum and it does seem like the game is moving in the right direction with goal-line technology and VAR has potential if they can iron out the creases but undermining the whole thing is the playacting which goes on now and you are almost forced to do it because if you dont you are putting your team at the disadvantage.

Ah the rugby comparison!

I tell you what, allow tackling with legs and watch the number of dives and injuries go up. Also, your main mass in your body, not your legs so it's no wonder football players fall over a lot

[Nicey]

Ah the rugby comparison!

I tell you what, allow tackling with legs and watch the number of dives and injuries go up. Also, your main mass in your body, not your legs so it's no wonder football players fall over a lot

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yeah I suppose so

[BG1973]

Unfortunately its part of the game, football is inherently dishonest compared to most other sports I follow or have taken part in. Nowhere else is gaming the system so blatantly encouraged and we have been so over exposed to it that it has now been normalized. The reason its so pervasive is quite simple, Money. ****ing lots and lots of money. The entire sport that we love is now lead purely by Money. Fans talk about net spends, or how much money you get in the Champions Lg, or branding deals, tv rights, wage bills, money money money. Because of this and the supposed unearltly sums of money attached to winning a game of football, it attracts douchebags, just like in the Investment Banking world, wall to wall douchebags lead by a world were money is king.
So today we have players who will do just about anything to get an advantage and its applauded, defended and justified when we all know its garbage. We complain when our players kick a ball out for an injured player saying they are too nice, we all roundly me included demand our players harass the officials for every single decision and we all live in a all or nothing Season of 2 games cycles, because there is so much money riding on it.
I thought diving could be dealt with retrospectively? There needs to be a serious conversation about drawing the foul because for me that is just a clever dive, the game is too unbalanced toward attackers and that all got to do with Money, TV companies want Goals and Drama, Its less about two football teams playing and seeing who is the best and more about this weeks installment of Football Drama.
Defenders have the toughest job on the pitch by far these days, they **** up once and they are getting pelters for weeks, attackers can use they body as much as the like to shield gain advantage etc but if a defender even thinks about laying a hand or a shoulder on a attacker, prepare yourself to see said attacker go down arms flailing like they have just taken a spear to the lower back. Its ****ing nonsense.

Well that was a depressing read.

Spot on, sadly.

[Assassin]

Well that was a depressing read.

Spot on, sadly.

I thought it was quite refreshing......and painfully true

[Buzzo]

Ah the rugby comparison!

I tell you what, allow tackling with legs and watch the number of dives and injuries go up. Also, your main mass in your body, not your legs so it's no wonder football players fall over a lot

In principle it is a good comparison though. And Rugby has infinitely more injuries than football, they are part and parcel of the game. Rugby is a contact sport, football used to be.

The thing with Rugby is the referees word is final. Cases are referred to World Rugby all the time and long bans are handed out regularly. The issue football has is the press, the sports press will have a field day with any high profile case of cheating that results in a ban, but in time it would calm

Supporters become accustomed to that. You still get controversy with TMO in Rugby, but it absolutely rules out the absolute howler. The only real issue is implementation, Rugby has more set pieces than football so has a different tempo. How the TMO is introduced will be key. A challenge system would work but could only be requested during a break in play (like cricket and tennis) or give the TMO to the ref like in Rugby.

[Shaggy]

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[Havors]

Referees somehow manage to differentiate between intentional and unintentional back passes so why not this?

Whats your point? You dont seem to be making one... A ref can determine if a back pass is intentional so..... he can determine what about an offside?!

The rule has been made even more convoluted that it already was end of story.

[Havors]

Ah the rugby comparison!

I tell you what, allow tackling with legs and watch the number of dives and injuries go up. Also, your main mass in your body, not your legs so it's no wonder football players fall over a lot

What the hell are you talking about?? You seem to be missing the point of peoples posts and going off on a tangent....

[Havors]

In principle it is a good comparison though. And Rugby has infinitely more injuries than football, they are part and parcel of the game. Rugby is a contact sport, football used to be.

The thing with Rugby is the referees word is final. Cases are referred to World Rugby all the time and long bans are handed out regularly. The issue football has is the press, the sports press will have a field day with any high profile case of cheating that results in a ban, but in time it would calm

Supporters become accustomed to that. You still get controversy with TMO in Rugby, but it absolutely rules out the absolute howler. The only real issue is implementation, Rugby has more set pieces than football so has a different tempo. How the TMO is introduced will be key. A challenge system would work but could only be requested during a break in play (like cricket and tennis) or give the TMO to the ref like in Rugby.

Id prefer it to be as much like rugby as possible. I also think the watch should be taken off the referee and the clock is controlled the same way as in rugby. You cant get gob ****e refs adding completely arbitrary amounts of time at the end of a half.

It would take some working out and rules on when the clock stops and when it doesn't, as it does in Rugby.

Obviously there are things that would need to tweeked to account for the different sports but the principle that Rugby uses is second to none in my opinion.