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    Like I say I don't think he is PL proven so still represents a risk, and I don't see championship clubs paying that sort of money in the current financial situation. Hopefully I am wrong...
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      Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
      Like I say I don't think he is PL proven so still represents a risk, and I don't see championship clubs paying that sort of money in the current financial situation. Hopefully I am wrong...

      Do not think there is a massive difference in quality between the better Championship teams and the lower tier PL ones tbh. That is the level I think he is proven at.


      Have seen people describe Nat Philips as being PL proven, and guys like Andy Carroll and Andrew Robertson were called it before joining us.

      Even Wijnaldum was called PL proven when he joined us.

      I'm not saying he is a very good player or even a good one by the standards of a top half PL team, just that he seems to have shown over the course of the past three to four years that he can do a job for clubs in that lower bracket of bottom half of the PL/Top half of the Championship.
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        Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
        Do not think there is a massive difference in quality between the better Championship teams and the lower tier PL ones tbh. That is the level I think he is proven at.


        Have seen people describe Nat Philips as being PL proven, and guys like Andy Carroll and Andrew Robertson were called it before joining us.

        Even Wijnaldum was called PL proven when he joined us.

        I'm not saying he is a very good player or even a good one by the standards of a top half PL team, just that he seems to have shown over the course of the past three to four years that he can do a job for clubs in that lower bracket of bottom half of the PL/Top half of the Championship.
        There isn't much of a difference in quality.between lower half PL clubs and promotion chasing championship clubs, there are to my mind 2 main differences: 1) Money, PL sides can afford much larger transfer fees, but 2) are less likely to buy 'luxury' players, your typical bottom half of the PL sides are more likely to setup in a much more defensive way than a top championship club. Wilson struggled to get games at Bournemouth even under a manager who tried to play football, so I think he would likely be viewed in this way by many managers or clubs.

        Regarding other players Robertson was a regular for Hull for 3 seasons, 2 of which were in the PL, was he PL proven, I would probably say 2 seasons as a regular qualifies. Carroll half a season as a regular in the PL after a good season in the Championship, I would say people were swayed by his good half season, but I would say not PL proven (and not just with hindsight ) Wijnaldum had a good season as a regular at Newcastle maybe PL proven on the back of that, but he was already proven at the top level with his form in the Dutch league.

        For me Wilson has half a season of PL football where he wasn't a regular, yes he might have put in some good performances but wasn't doing it week in week out so for me not PL proven. Similarly I wouldn't say Phillips is PL proven.
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          Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
          Would have to imagine that depending on whether a PL or Championship were interested in him, we could got somewhere in the 12m to 20m range. Think it is fair to say that he is a proven Championship/lower PL tier player now so that would/should make him an interesting target for a lot of clubs.

          Could also see him maybe getting some interest from either of the big two in Scotland.
          ...Kent went to Rangers and seems to be doing well now. It's definitely a level to suit some of the less established 'nearly boys' from the squad... plus he'd have Stevie as manager and he'll know his playing style well.

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              Left foot like a wand.
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              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                So do we keep him & Harvey next season & bin Shaq & Ox to free up wages for Mbappe?
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                  Beautiful executions, but it was like playing against a team without a goalie. Bad positioning for the first, terrible wall set up for the second and the ball was hit at him directly for the third.
                  One tit for another.

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                    Still got to stick it in the net though don't you.

                    He cant be any worse than Origi or Ox or even the current version of Firmino can he? They offer us absolutely nothing at the moment. At least this lad can strike a ball, doesn't have the heart the size of a pea or have bones made from crisps.
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                      The white mbappe. Bring him home.

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                        If we could just sub him on and off for set-pieces like an NFL kicker he'd be world class.

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                          Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                          If we could just sub him on and off for set-pieces like an NFL kicker he'd be world class.
                          One tit for another.

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                            Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                            If we could just sub him on and off for set-pieces like an NFL kicker he'd be world class.
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                              Originally posted by Harv View Post
                              Still got to stick it in the net though don't you.

                              He cant be any worse than Origi or Ox or even the current version of Firmino can he? They offer us absolutely nothing at the moment. At least this lad can strike a ball, doesn't have the heart the size of a pea or have bones made from crisps.



                              I don’t know if he’s good enough for LFC, but I DO know that origi, ox and a few others that are keeping him out of the squad, are not good enough for LFC...
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