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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    I would argue that the modern fullback is one of, if not the toughest position physically to play in football. You are expected to be up and down constantly like a greyhound, beat players, pick passes, get balls into the box and yet still keep focus on defending and not being caught out of position. It's an absolutely brutal position to play in the modern game imo.

    Jones is a nice baller but I'm not sure he's cut out physically for that position, I'm sure he can do a job but we need better than that. Trent didn't have pace to lose buy he did, the difference between him and most other fullbacks is that he has a magic wand of a foot and we forgave the defensive stuff because of the insane production he was shelling out when he was in his pomp for us.


    That wham being chatted, fella.


    Was TAA a beartrap of a full back? No, but in his pomp, as you called it, he was still an above average RB in terms of defending and world class on the playmaking/attacking side of things.

    A team does not have the sort of defensive record our team had duing the peak Klopp years if they are carrying a passenger, in defensive terms, at full back.

    He has fallen off a lot the past two seasons, but let's not pretend he was not really good at RB (good at defending, brilliant at attacking) for a chunk of his time in the team.

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  • baitman
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    I would argue that the modern fullback is one of, if not the toughest position physically to play in football. You are expected to be up and down constantly like a greyhound, beat players, pick passes, get balls into the box and yet still keep focus on defending and not being caught out of position. It's an absolutely brutal position to play in the modern game imo.

    Jones is a nice baller but I'm not sure he's cut out physically for that position, I'm sure he can do a job but we need better than that. Trent didn't have pace to lose buy he did, the difference between him and most other fullbacks is that he has a magic wand of a foot and we forgave the defensive stuff because of the insane production he was shelling out when he was in his pomp for us.

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  • danperkins
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    Originally posted by Angryred View Post
    Yes, all that and being press-resistant, too. I do like the idea of him being at right back, as it is not that hard a position to learn.
    Under Slot, he can come on in leaps and bounds while freeing up space in the midfield for someone decent to come in as not comfortable having to rely on Grav, Macca & Szobo to be available all the time, they will need rest & help.
    Jones can become our utility man when Endo leaves.
    I would argue that the modern fullback is one of, if not the toughest position physically to play in football. You are expected to be up and down constantly like a greyhound, beat players, pick passes, get balls into the box and yet still keep focus on defending and not being caught out of position. It's an absolutely brutal position to play in the modern game imo.

    Jones is a nice baller but I'm not sure he's cut out physically for that position, I'm sure he can do a job but we need better than that. Trent didn't have pace to lose buy he did, the difference between him and most other fullbacks is that he has a magic wand of a foot and we forgave the defensive stuff because of the insane production he was shelling out when he was in his pomp for us.

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  • danperkins
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    Not sure (m)any of our fullbacks fulfil all those criteria to be honest...
    That's the problem unfortunately and exactly why we'll hopefully fix that when Trent leaves.

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  • rudedog
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    I would start jones in centre mid for the remaining games. He has more nous and touch than any of the other 3. Give mcallister a rest.
    Who are you dropping to fit Jones in?

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  • Cerbie
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    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    I would start jones in centre mid for the remaining games. He has more nous and touch than any of the other 3. Give mcallister a rest.
    I agree Mac needs a rest, particularly after the Tarkowski assault.

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  • Cerbie
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    I agree he is at his best in midfield, but the fact we can rely on him at RB too is a bonus with Trent's impending departure.

    It provides in-game flexibility for tactical changes and to accommodate any injuries.

    Bradley should be the first-choice RB next season, particularly against teams that will attack down the flanks. For teams parking the bus, we could use Jones in a hybrid RB role.

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  • BobTheCharmer
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    I would start jones in centre mid for the remaining games. He has more nous and touch than any of the other 3. Give mcallister a rest.

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  • The_weatherman
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    Originally posted by S-RED View Post
    Wow, what a glass full group we are; the guy has been head & shoulders above anyone else all season
    He has, but he has been **** recently, the problem is we can't sub him off.

    Jones was good, but should not be viewed as a right back, he's an emergency option, showed great attitude, but he's a midfielder.

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  • BG1973
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    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
    Wonder if he fancies a change of position, make that RB slot his own.
    He's a great player and agree he had a good enough game, but not sure he has the pace for Rb.

    And also that slot is Bradley's to own if he can stay fit.

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  • S-RED
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    Wow, what a glass full group we are; the guy has been head & shoulders above anyone else all season

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  • BobTheCharmer
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    Originally posted by S-RED View Post
    no surprise Salahs last two games where he was not at normal standard was without a recognised full back behind him
    Nah, salah has been ****ing ****e for 5 or 6 games now.

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  • Charly
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    Originally posted by S-RED View Post
    no surprise Salahs last two games where he was not at normal standard was without a recognised full back behind him
    Last two games?


    He has been pretty awful for a while

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  • Charly
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    Originally posted by Cerbie View Post
    I think tonight shows between Jones and Bradley we have enough first choice cover at RB. With Quansah and Gomez in reserve we don’t need to worry about a Trent replacement for RB.
    But Jones is the only cover in midfield that Slot plays. We cant not bring in new bodies

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying he didn't do ok. He has ability but he just doesn't have the attributes to be a fullback at LFC. Not quick, doesn't ran at players, doesn't get to the byline and not a long ball specialist. He excels at keeping possession, being clever and playing intricate balls in small spaces.

    He did fine in isolation but it knocked out whole right side out of balance imo.
    Not sure (m)any of our fullbacks fulfil all those criteria to be honest...

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