Curtis Jones

[Mark79]

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[Paul12]

Does anyone know what the story is about his absence at the weekend and him not training with the match squad today. Injury, illness, discipline, haircut?

[Doc_Piptorious]

I wouldn't send him out on loan.

He has enough prem experience now to be kicking on, it's not a lack of experience that is holding him back, its his decision making and the incredibly high standard of the players in front of him.

The latter won't be lesser if he goes out and loan and returns, probably it will be more.

He has to be able to beat these players into the starting line up otherwise he will never make it at the club. At least not while the future looks so strong under Jurgen.

At 21 is it reasonable though to ask him to beat names like Fabinho, Thiago and Keita into the starting XI when he is not at their level yet?

Same with the likes of Henderson, Jones is not on the same level yet.

Milner he could push for a back up berth and already is if minutes played this season are anything to go by.

Plus if we go out and buy one or more first team challenging midfielders this summer he is going to be a bit further behind again.

Personally think he is probably another seasons worth of gametime away from being able to properly challenge for a starting berth.

There are pros and cons to him going out on loan.

The main pro would be if he was at a PL club where he got regular game time under a progressive manager.

The con of course being if he was on loan and simply training with a squad a players of lesser quality to what we have and a coaching set up that is below the level of what we have.

Would be very happy to see him at the likes of Brighton, Fulham, Brentford etc if he were to get regular game time as all those teams press as a unit, all those teams have managers that are progressive in how they approach the game and they are teams that require their CMs to be hard working but technically good.

[Corndog]

I wouldn't send him out on loan.

He has enough prem experience now to be kicking on, it's not a lack of experience that is holding him back, its his decision making and the incredibly high standard of the players in front of him.

The latter won't be lesser if he goes out and loan and returns, probably it will be more.

He has to be able to beat these players into the starting line up otherwise he will never make it at the club. At least not while the future looks so strong under Jurgen.

[Kenneth]

I think the problem with loans is that no team that would take him on loan is going to play like we do, and being away from the squad and out of the loop can be as much of a problem as the experience is a benefit. I don’t recall the last loan that you’d regard as successful in terms of getting someone closer to the starting line up, maybe Elliott but that’s debatable. I think we use it to try and sell players and save wages, eg Taki. Look who’s on loan now; Woodburn, Ojo, Davies, Phillips, Williams, I don’t think we really want any of them back.

[Charly]

Time and games. Thats why a loan is best. We need better now to challange City imho.

[Norbs]

He is now the same age Hendo was when he came to LFC.

It took Hendo a few seasons to establish himself, fans were on his back a fair bit during this time.

The boy just needs a bit of time.

Good observation Rudey

[rudedog]

He is now the same age Hendo was when he came to LFC.

It took Hendo a few seasons to establish himself, fans were on his back a fair bit during this time.

The boy just needs a bit of time.

[Paul12]

Think the time to start thinking Jones is not going to become the player we hope is if he hits 23 or 24 and is still looking at the level he is now.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He doesn't need to move at all, he's turning into a good player and he's only 21. Plus he gets to train with Thiago, Henderson, Keita and Milner. He has the best coaches and players to learn from.

Not all players can mature as quickly as TAA, who is a generational talent. Plus his pathway to RB wasn't that conjested was it?

He's only 21!!

Think the time to start thinking Jones is not going to become the player we hope is if he hits 23 or 24 and is still looking at the level he is now.

He is already a good squad player ( by the standards set by our midfeld options) who would be good enough to be a starter in teams further down the league.

I do think game time is something he needs badly though and to be playing in two out of every three games at least in order to develop quicker. That's why I think a loan to a decent club with a progressive manager might suit him if we are not thinking of using him more in the first team next season.

[Fosterbloke]

He doesn't need to move at all, he's turning into a good player and he's only 21. Plus he gets to train with Thiago, Henderson, Keita and Milner. He has the best coaches and players to learn from.

Not all players can mature as quickly as TAA, who is a generational talent. Plus his pathway to RB wasn't that conjested was it?

He's only 21!!

[greenturnip]

Curtis is a scouser and will be absolutely desperate to stay and improve. I think he will. Unlike Jonjo.

[red g]

Don't shoot me but I get Shelvey vibes from him.

I was about to mention the same.

[rudedog]

Don't shoot me but I get Shelvey vibes from him.

Jones is providing you with vibrators that were previously owned by Shelvey?

Are they autographed?

[Doc_Piptorious]

Don't shoot me but I get Shelvey vibes from him.

Similar hairstyles?