Alisson Becker

[Big-Red-Ed]

I thought it was a definite foul myself. Normally goalkeepers get more protection in those situations. I think he should have been stronger even with the foul. He also should have done better with the one that went under him. But he has been magnificent lately. Every one can have a mare now and again

YNWA

[Exiled_red]

The two early VAR calls I thought were both wrong, having seen them again this morning these are my thoughts:

The goal - I think that this is 50-50, is there contact on Alisson? Yes - but that doesn't necessaily make it a foul. The big question is does the contact stop Alisson from clearing the ball? Having seen it again I am not sure that the answer to this is yes, which I think is where the problem for VAR is. There is contact on Alisson's right arm but I am not sure that without that contact to the arm he is able to clear the ball. I think that the fact that his left arm gets contact on the ball undermines the argument that he could clear it with his right, as the contact doesn't cause his body to turn. I think the degree of uncertainty as to whether he could have cleared it is why the goal was allowed to stand. But as it is IMO a subjective call, I think that the ref should be called over to the monitor and make the decision himself.

The Cresswell one is a shocker, I thought it was a red when I first saw it, and the more I see it the worse it gets. I have absolutely no idea how VAR doesn't see that as a red, OK he gets the top of the ball bounces off it over the ball into Henderson's right leg, meanwhile his othe leg goes around Henderson's left leg into the back of his knee it's as clear a red as you are likely to see. Shocking decision.

[labourRed]

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[BobTheCharmer]

Foul or not, he was way too preoccupied with the West Ham player. He got played and fell for it. Has to be stronger.

[labourRed]

Foul or not, he was way too preoccupied with the West Ham player. He got played and fell for it. Has to be stronger.

Foul or not.

Someone should have dragged back to protect Alisson. It's a massive hole in the modern set piece game. Everyone has a job and they stick to it. When it's disrupted they've no plan B.

[Fosterbloke]

Foul or not, he was way too preoccupied with the West Ham player. He got played and fell for it. Has to be stronger.

What a load of utter bollocks - he was fouled. Maybe we should get Arnie between the sticks so his arms aren't pushed out the way so easily?

[Kenneth]

He ****ed up. Took him too long to judge the flight of the ball so didn’t have the height to get above the striker. The ball was there for the striker to try and get a head to it. And VAR reviewed it and said no foul, so whatever he did, he needs to do something else because punching the ball into his own net like that is the least preferable option.

[SB]

He needs to lead with his knee right into the strikers back or whatever & make them think twice about crowding him out.

[Kenneth]

And it would be good if Jota didn’t barge players into the keeper next time too.

[The_weatherman]

What a load of utter bollocks - he was fouled. Maybe we should get Arnie between the sticks so his arms aren't pushed out the way so easily?

Late to the discussion, but I agree, Antonio was jumping backwards into Alisson. If this isn't a foul then we are opening hunting season on keepers, 100% a foul IMO. It's not like Alisson is soft or **** at crosses, don't get this perceived weakness neither We didn't lose because of this call, but this was wrong.

[frank the tank]

yip - we were below our best...... however, West Ham got an early goal that should have been disallowed and also got away with a red card that should have been given.

****in terrible refereeing on both decisions.

Hopefully LFC take that anger from being ****ed over and channel it in a positive way. And go and win our next 8 or 10 league games.

[SB]

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[Mr Pink]

yip - we were below our best...... however, West Ham got an early goal that should have been disallowed and also got away with a red card that should have been given.

****in terrible refereeing on both decisions.

Hopefully LFC take that anger from being ****ed over and channel it in a positive way. And go and win our next 8 or 10 league games.

[BobTheCharmer]

What a load of utter bollocks - he was fouled. Maybe we should get Arnie between the sticks so his arms aren't pushed out the way so easily?

Well a number of people don't agree. He was weak. Feeble. Poor. Whatever, he gifted them a goal.

[Doc_Piptorious]

yip - we were below our best...... however, West Ham got an early goal that should have been disallowed and also got away with a red card that should have been given.

****in terrible refereeing on both decisions.

Hopefully LFC take that anger from being ****ed over and channel it in a positive way. And go and win our next 8 or 10 league games.

Especially when a few days later in the Ireland vs Portugal game a foul was given for far less contact on a keeper and a goal disallowed.


The red card should have been given too because intent does not matter a jot nor does winning the ball first when the rules of the game clearly state that it is a red card if the player's motion is out of control.