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    Fans return to matches: Government exploring potential return for December

    The government is exploring the potential for fans to return to sports venues in some parts of England as early as next month.

    According to sources, Prime Minister Boris Johnson privately indicated to MPs on Monday that re-opening turnstiles as soon as possible was "a personal priority".

    The Department of Media, Culture and Sport (DCMS) is now working on allowing fans into stadia in areas where rates of infections are deemed sufficiently low - possibly before Christmas.

    Sports had previously been told to brace themselves for the threat of having no crowds until April.

    On Tuesday, the government said it had held "constructive" talks with football leaders on the return of fans, along with issues such as governance reforms, financial sustainability, and greater diversity.

    Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden, who hosted a 90-minute 'virtual future of football' summit, said: "I want to work together with football to make progress on important issues for the game's long-term future.

    "Discussions to continue as we start our fan-led review of governance."

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    Any proposals to link access to sports grounds with the tier-system that was in place before the second national lockdown came into force earlier this month, are yet to be finalised or approved by the Cabinet Office.

    But officials are known to be increasingly keen to come up with a plan that would enable a phased return of fans in Tier One and possibly Tier Two areas of the country, if the lockdown is lifted, as hoped, in early December.

    In a devastating blow to cash-strapped sports bodies, plans for a partial return of spectators from 1 October were scrapped amid a rise in coronavirus cases.

    Turnstiles have been closed since March, despite sports insisting that pilot events with socially-distanced crowds have been achieved safely.

    There has been further controversy because some arts venues, such as the O2 and Royal Albert Hall, will be allowed to host audiences of up to 5,000 people next month, leading to accusations of inconsistency and favouritism from the sports industry.

    Last week during a parliamentary debate on the issue, the government refused to say when it expects spectators to be allowed back inside sports venues in England. Almost 200,000 people have signed petitions calling for fans to be able to return.

    However, there are fears that opening stadia could lead to a greater risk of transmission.

    "Everyone's saying, 'can I get back to my stadium?'" Sports Minister Nigel Huddleston said last week.

    "You times that by multiple levels, leagues and sports, and all of a sudden we've got a whole scale far beyond what is acceptable at this moment in time."

    But, in what will come as a major boost to sport, there now seems to have been a shift in approach.

    The Premier League's failure to reach a financial bail-out agreement with the EFL was also discussed at the summit, with ministers known to be increasingly frustrated at the deadlock.

    Reform to the system of parachute payments for relegated clubs was mooted at a meeting designed to get the sport's authorities to work together after recent tensions over the potential rescue package and the emergence of radical restructure proposals.
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      I know that everyone in football wants to get fans back in the stadia for a range of reasons but until this virus is properly under control this seems like a bad idea to me.
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        Seems almost impossible to imagine fans in grounds pre Christmas given where we are right now.

        If there is a list of priorities you’d imagine this is quite low on it right now.
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          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          I know that everyone in football wants to get fans back in the stadia for a range of reasons but until this virus is properly under control this seems like a bad idea to me.


          If test, track and trace is done properly and the technology is fast and efficient, then I can see no reason why we wouldn’t be able to start to get some normality back again, in a phased way obviously.

          Lockdown has its own issues.
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            Originally posted by Fredo View Post
            If test, track and trace is done properly and the technology is fast and efficient, then I can see no reason why we wouldn’t be able to start to get some normality back again, in a phased way obviously.

            Lockdown has its own issues.
            The biggest issue is that gargantuan monolith sized first ‘if’ you mention.

            IF we get the ‘r’ number down and a fit for purpose track and trace a lot of things become possible. IF.
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              Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
              The biggest issue is that gargantuan monolith sized first ‘if’ you mention.



              IF we get the ‘r’ number down and a fit for purpose track and trace a lot of things become possible. IF.


              Well yeah. I would hope we’d start to be on top of this, since it will be a year since this all started.

              As to the issue at hand, no fans in stadiums, it’s not the bigger clubs which are suffering the most, but the smaller ones.
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                The track and trace system is nowhere near fit for purpose, if it were we probably wouldn't be facing anywhere near the level of restrictions that many areas of the country are currently under.

                I am aware of many of the issues that small clubs in particular but as much as I love football at a time where you can't see your family and friends inside your home or go to shops and buy non essential items, getting people back into football grounds has to be really low down any list of priorities.
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                  Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                  Well yeah. I would hope we’d start to be on top of this, since it will be a year since this all started.

                  As to the issue at hand, no fans in stadiums, it’s not the bigger clubs which are suffering the most, but the smaller ones.


                  It should be achievable, but it seems to be a statement way out of synch with what is happening in society.
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post




                    It should be achievable, but it seems to be a statement way out of synch with what is happening in society.


                    Yeah agree. Wished the govt would be a bit more competent by sorting this out rather than them wasting money on other stuff.
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                      Arsenal player has tested positive in Bosnia now...... This weekends results could be interesting, with 16 prem test positive & all those on int duty

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                          Last I heard is the whole country will be in the highest tier after the current restrictions so not sure how this will work.
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                            You can see why they have done it. For smaller clubs this would be a massive lifeline and would ease any potential Govmnt bailouts.

                            Not sure 4,000 fans in a stadium like Anfield is a good idea, imagine you can hear alot of what the fans shout quite clearly!

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                              There must be a minimum volume of people to make it cost effective for staffing etc - how do you let 4000 people into Anfield - is that all stands open or half.....
                              Still though - great to get fans back

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                                Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                                There must be a minimum volume of people to make it cost effective for staffing etc - how do you let 4000 people into Anfield - is that all stands open or half.....
                                Still though - great to get fans back
                                I reckon they will ramp up the number pretty quickly once the logistics have been worked out in terms of who gets the tickets/tavel arrangements etc
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