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    #91
    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
    I ain't ****ing reading all that
    Longer article much better for you, surely? At that length a subtle quote edit is less noticeable
    Football without Origi is nothing

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      #92
      Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
      Longer article much better for you, surely? At that length a subtle quote edit is less noticeable
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        #93
        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
        I struggle to get past the first line when I see all that.
        You should read it. I'm certain it will relieve your anxiety levels concerning on our non activity on the transfer front.

        Are we winning?

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          #94
          It’s a great read! Personally, I’m pretty optimistic about the new season!

          Squad wise, I think we’re more comfortable now, than before last season.

          I think the “it’s harder to win it a second time” narrative is a load of bollox- it’s hard to win it, full stop. What makes it harder a second time? Before we won it, people were saying it’s harder for us, cos we don’t have experience of winning it, but now it’s harder cos we have recent experience of winning it?? As for the notion that teams treat you differently after you’ve won it- we got 97 points the year before and won the champions league, so teams would be stupid to not realize our quality.

          I also think the “they can’t keep it up 3 years in a row” narrative is a load of bollox. Why not?! Footballers typically do it for 10-15 years in a row. The fact that they stay together at the same club, will stop that?? From a physical perspective, our front 3 (the players I hear rival fans say will burn out) have had their first long break in years, during the lockdown, and we were in semi-preseason mode for the last 7 games of the season. Yes, we wanted to win the games, but obviously the pressure that normally comes with a game wasn’t there.
          I don't tip

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            #95
            Yeah, that is a really good read.

            Love this:

            KloppÂ’s much cited heavy-metal style has long evolved into a slower, more hypnotic soundtrack of continuous precision beats that deliver deeply-felt elation at the end of a long night rather than the helter-skelter of hands-in-the-air moments mixed with some really dud tunes that played out between 2015-2018.


            Also initial estimates of the cost of Covid are £100m

            How the **** are smaller clubs going to survive this?
            Modifying post.

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              #96
              I am inexplicably annoyed by the fact City are odds on favourites. I know I have my own doubts and bouts of pessimism about the season, but we're 2/1 ffs while they're odds on. How on earth do they work that out? It's obviously not worth giving a **** about but it's annoying me.
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                #97
                Originally posted by Mr Pink View Post
                It’s a great read! Personally, I’m pretty optimistic about the new season!

                Squad wise, I think we’re more comfortable now, than before last season.

                I think the “it’s harder to win it a second time” narrative is a load of bollox- it’s hard to win it, full stop. What makes it harder a second time? Before we won it, people were saying it’s harder for us, cos we don’t have experience of winning it, but now it’s harder cos we have recent experience of winning it?? As for the notion that teams treat you differently after you’ve won it- we got 97 points the year before and won the champions league, so teams would be stupid to not realize our quality.

                I also think the “they can’t keep it up 3 years in a row” narrative is a load of bollox. Why not?! Footballers typically do it for 10-15 years in a row. The fact that they stay together at the same club, will stop that?? From a physical perspective, our front 3 (the players I hear rival fans say will burn out) have had their first long break in years, during the lockdown, and we were in semi-preseason mode for the last 7 games of the season. Yes, we wanted to win the games, but obviously the pressure that normally comes with a game wasn’t there.
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  I am inexplicably annoyed by the fact City are odds on favourites. I know I have my own doubts and bouts of pessimism about the season, but we're 2/1 ffs while they're odds on. How on earth do they work that out? It's obviously not worth giving a **** about but it's annoying me.
                  Well bung a score on it at twos and buy a nice ruby with your winnings and then enjoy being a smuggly smuglington knowing it was there for the taking.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Fan65 View Post
                    Well bung a score on it at twos and buy a nice ruby with your winnings and then enjoy being a smuggly smuglington knowing it was there for the taking.
                    Buy a curry with my three hundred quid winnings?
                    Last edited by Shaggy; 11-09-20, 08:18 PM.
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                      I am inexplicably annoyed by the fact City are odds on favourites. I know I have my own doubts and bouts of pessimism about the season, but we're 2/1 ffs while they're odds on. How on earth do they work that out? It's obviously not worth giving a **** about but it's annoying me.
                      A lot of analysis/stats seems to rely on the very basic XG model which we seem to have broken the rules of.

                      I expect us to fall back to the norm but not as much as the 'experts' think.

                      I think the fact we have Mane/Salah curling in chances from the opposite flanks rather an a left footer on the left. We score a much higher percentage of chances than expected but I don't think its a fluke. What is a 1 in 10 chance for a normal person is rightly 1 in 4 for Salah/Mane but it doesn't take into account the player.

                      Having the best goalie and CB seems to cause lots of unforced errors from opponents who are aiming precisely for the the corner and missing than just attempting to get it on target. Martial at 2.09 is a good example, VVD stopping the slower curled effort into the right,he ****s himself not wanting to put it close to Alisson. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3bAIbH3jcw"]Salah seals Liverpool victory over Man Utd! | Liverpool 2-0 Man Utd | Premier League Highlights - YouTube[/ame]

                      Close games at 0-0 where they miss a big chance XG has us behind, we go a goal ahead and kill the game without creating chances so not cranking up our XG and makes the match far more close than reality.

                      Also we are the masters of doing simple **** repeatedly well. It must be absolutely mentally and physically exhausting playing us. How the **** do you model that.

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                        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                        I am inexplicably annoyed by the fact City are odds on favourites. I know I have my own doubts and bouts of pessimism about the season, but we're 2/1 ffs while they're odds on. How on earth do they work that out? It's obviously not worth giving a **** about but it's annoying me.
                        I dont know much about betting odds but I thought that bookies odds were reflective of where the money was being placed? I know that it starts from a bookies odds but where it goes after that is dependent on the money?

                        Or have I got that wrong?

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                          Correct. If a lot of money is coming in for one selection they lower the odds on that and increase the odds on other selections to level the exposure across different outcomes
                          Football without Origi is nothing

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                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            Buy a curry with my three hundred quid winnings?
                            A score 20 x 2 = 40

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                              Bit of a Puh-tuh-puh post.

                              GK

                              Alisson
                              Adrian
                              Kelleher

                              RB

                              TAA
                              Neco

                              CB

                              VVD
                              Gomez
                              Matip
                              (Fabinho)

                              LB

                              Robbo
                              Tsmikas

                              CM

                              Fabinho
                              Henderson
                              Keita
                              Thiago
                              Wijnaldum
                              Milner
                              Oxlade-Chamberlain
                              Jones
                              Elliott

                              Forwards

                              Firmino
                              Salah
                              Mane
                              Minamino
                              Jota
                              Origi
                              Brewster
                              Shaqiri


                              That's pushing 30 players. Could be argued there's two areas to be addressed - a forward player and a 4th choice CB. Otherwise it looks a complete squad to me.

                              With everyone fit we're going to see by far the strongest bench we've ever had.
                              Last edited by Shaggy; 20-09-20, 10:01 AM.
                              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                                Originally posted by Fan65 View Post
                                A score 20 x 2 = 40
                                Could've sworn you put 'ton'
                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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