Pre-Season 20-21

[BobTheCharmer]

The player that I think has been missing for most of the games where we have been shipping goals is Hendo. Arguably as a DM he outperformed Fab last season.

Agree on Matip. He’s be some a bit of a perma crock which is a shame.

Yeah Hendo adds some on pitch focus. Definitely missed when not out there.

[danperkins]

To be honest I was hoping Matip and Gomez would be fighting for spots and we would sign a top class CB. Fab is a strange one, either on or off. Needs to get some consistency like Hendo has. Sometimes he looks absolutely outstanding and other times he looks slow and cumbersome

[BobTheCharmer]

It would be very disappointing if we go into another season with Derek quite ordinary as main backup to the front 3. Surely Brewster should be ahead now.

[SB]

Speaking of CB’s for moment, with Lovren gone ( & Matip regularly injured ) who is our new No4 choice & can they really be trusted at this level? Van Den Berg? Phillips? Because right now with Matip out one of those guys will be on the bench & potentially playing a part in the Comm Shield in a few days time. Sure when Hendo is back We could play Fab there in CB or Gini could hold in Hendos absence too. But square pegs in round holes isn’t ideal hey

[Kenneth]

Yes, I would think Fab is our fourth choice CB as things stand and he would do well, I'm sure, but then we weaken our MF options. Not ideal, but those are the risks you take when you aren't city or PSG or whathaveyou.

Although only one position, I think RB is a bit of a worry, as I'm not convinced Williams is ready to step in for Trent. We don't have the square peg options that we do at LB.

[SB]

Tbh no one is anywhere near the same level as Trent but yeah Neco does get caught out of position quite a lot & he would get targeted for sure. Millie or Hendo can cover there but yeah not ideal. The young Dutch lad is a natural RB too. Can’t think of his name though

[Sus]

Hoever right?

I remember how often TAA got targeted when he came into the team, and the debates around whether to play him against City and Manure when they were going to aim those long diagonal balls at him for Sane/Rashford to run onto

This is par for the course with introducing young players into the first team, especially young defenders. The only way they learn (like everyone else) is by making mistakes, unfortunately.

No other way to introduce academy lads in though, so we are either OK with it or we aren't...

[danperkins]

Yes, I would think Fab is our fourth choice CB as things stand and he would do well, I'm sure, but then we weaken our MF options. Not ideal, but those are the risks you take when you aren't city or PSG or whathaveyou.

Although only one position, I think RB is a bit of a worry, as I'm not convinced Williams is ready to step in for Trent. We don't have the square peg options that we do at LB.

Milner & Gomez have covered RB before and are definitely square peg options but it's not ideal as we always see a massive drop off when either Trent or Robbo doesn't play & yeah Williams has a long way to go.

[Charly]

People seemed to think Neco was going to be the second best rightback in the league, last week. Id rather he went on loan and we brought in a more experienced squaddie like we did for left back. The role is too important to have someone so raw as second choice.

Our defence is already pretty young, but lose VVD and Matip, and we have a backline averaging very early 20s?

I imagine we will bring in another more mature centreback.

[Phoenix07]

Klopp always play TAA. Even when he rests him, he brings him on as a substitute. Does my nut in, but there we go.

The key will be for Williams to keep us somewhat of an attacking force. Not quite a replication of TAA's play, but enough that we still have a threat, which I feel isn't there with Gomez or Milner at RB. Sure, he'll get caught out on occasions, but he'll learn through experience, and training with some extraordinary players.

Klopp likes to go with a risk and reward approach. He'll know some players are weak in some areas, but their contributions toward our overall game make them a good choice. That's what I feel Williams is. A player hungry to learn, and contribute toward our overall style, so the drop off isn't as great as it would be with other players there.

[Maxiedge]

Fabinho has played right back for Brazil too (and Monaco, I think).

[Irishnev]

Fabinho has played right back for Brazil too (and Monaco, I think).

Yet we have played both Hendo and Milner ahead of him as a RB when stuck the past. I don’t think Klopp sees him as a RB

[RichC]

Yeah, he may have played their for other sides but his game doesn’t suit how we play with fullbacks

[Roboklopp]

Bit too languid for the kinda RB we are after.

[Maxiedge]

Yeah maybe Hendo ahead of Fab, if needs be.