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    Yeah did well. I like him

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      Looks very composed. You wouldn’t guess he only signed for us 2 weeks ago. I’d take him ahead of Upamcano on tonight’s showing that is for sure...!!!

      He’s also a absolute giant.
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        Very calm and composed and reads the game well.
        Are we winning?

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          As good a performance as we could have hoped for 2 games in.
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            great 2nd performance, lets see how he goes against calvert & the cheating Brazilian **** on Saturday

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              When I've watched him in the Bundesliga he always looked quick, in the 2 games so far he has been done for pace on 2 occasions, something we rarely see with VVD/Gomez. Are they so quick or are theirs brains better tuned to the speed of the EPL and react quicker accordingly?

              I do like Kazza but this speed thing is of concern.
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                Originally posted by S-RED View Post
                great 2nd performance, lets see how he goes against calvert & the cheating Brazilian **** on Saturday
                Man i hope we hammer them.....

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                  Solid, keeps it simple, puts in a shift, he’s the Turkish Nat Philips.

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                    Originally posted by kev776 View Post
                    When I've watched him in the Bundesliga he always looked quick, in the 2 games so far he has been done for pace on 2 occasions, something we rarely see with VVD/Gomez. Are they so quick or are theirs brains better tuned to the speed of the EPL and react quicker accordingly?

                    I do like Kazza but this speed thing is of concern.

                    He is not slow, but he is a 20 year old lad who has been dropped into a team that is spluttering a bit and that has no real cohesion between the CB pairing and also between the CB pairing and the midfield.


                    VVD and Gomez are two quick highly talented CBs who are totally used to playing both in the PL and crucially within the LFC set up and they also have had the advantage of more often than not having the likes of Fabinho and Henderson in front of them to work as a unit with. VVD and Gomez also know the other's game so well that each knows when to move up or drop back to cover the other as they know the other's game so well know and each knows when it is the other's time to advance on a player so no need for them to stop and check the play.

                    Kabak is still figuring out where he sits in the system and to be fair so is Henderson when it comes to being a CB. Plenty of times last night they both stayed static instead of one going to meet a player and they were both having to stop to check where the other was. All totally undertandable as last night was only the second game they have played in together, but both will look a bit clunky at times for a good few games yet.

                    I think that is also why both he and Henderson got caught flat footed a few times and that allowed a RBL player to accelerate quickly beyond one or the other as our two were unsure where the other was and were taking that extra second to check, which in turn made the difference between being able to go with the RBL player stride for stride or having to chase after the player after you mistimed your turn.

                    And on that looking clunky side of things, if Fab is back for the Everton game, then there is a good chance that Fab goes back to CB and that means Kabak will be starting from scratch again in terms of learning to read a CB partner.


                    Thought he was actually prety quick at times last night, especially in the second half when he came out to help TAA a few times. RBL are a pretty quick team with pace all over the pitch so considering that he did not look all that one paced at all to my eyes.
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                      I thought he did really well last night because it was a big test. Certainly well enough to release one of our midfielders back to mf.
                      I do share concerns about his pace but he is only 20. Joe and Virgil are some of the quickest around so anyone will look slow.
                      On the subject of pace I never realised Henderson was so slow. He got burned a couple of times.

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                        Looks really promising, there were a couple of moments last night when he showed great composure on the ball, a couple of nice turns to get out of trouble and his distribution was clever - usually safe but wasn't afraid to play a mid distance pass into midfield.
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                          Originally posted by Big-Red-Ed View Post
                          I thought he did really well last night because it was a big test. Certainly well enough to release one of our midfielders back to mf.
                          I do share concerns about his pace but he is only 20. Joe and Virgil are some of the quickest around so anyone will look slow.
                          On the subject of pace I never realised Henderson was so slow. He got burned a couple of times.

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                          I would be amazed if our CB partnership for the derby doesn't include one of Henderson or Fabinho (assuming they aren't injured) alongsids Kabak.
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                            I'd be amazed too. But I'm saying if they are both fit then Kabak should be trusted to fill one of the slots. Tbh I'd have trusted Philips also. If only to get our midfield functioning properly again.

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                              Originally posted by Big-Red-Ed View Post
                              I'd be amazed too. But I'm saying if they are both fit then Kabak should be trusted to fill one of the slots. Tbh I'd have trusted Philips also. If only to get our midfield functioning properly again.

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                              I'm not saying I disagree, I just think Klopp will be reluctant to move Henderson/Fabinho out of defence just yet.

                              I am hoping that he will give Phillips or Davies a game with Kabak after the Derby is done...
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                                Still waiting for a Davies & Kabak partnership to let Henderson back into the midfield...Sometimes ya gotta take that leap of faith!
                                Davies will be familiar with the frantic nature of English football so nothing new there albeit facing better strikers.
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