Chelsea (H) 28.08.21

[Irishnev]

[quote=Pablo;3732122]

I honestly don't think he deserves the stick he's getting. He's clearly giving it everything and he's still causing problems (he won us the penalty, and caused the red card). He seems to be becoming a scapegoat which is mad. Maybe don't **** off Nev , but I think he deserves a bit more patience and respect.

Football is hyperbolic we know that, he’s been off for 18 months now and I hope he turns it around. I fully respect what he has done for us but I’m getting impatient now

[fidget]

The bar has been set pretty high now for apoplexy after a game.
What's it going to be like if we lose a match? Death threats?

[labourRed]

This thread is great. Disagreements, negativity, positivity and name calling. Exactly how a football thread should be.

OK, so we deserved third. The two who were better and the one behind are better now. We don't have the financial power to keep up. We are still a good side, we will compete for top four again. Today was poor because we failed to take a gifted opportunity and need all the points that are readily available. We failed by playing poorly. I'm not miserable and I don't think that's particularly negative either tbh.

[danperkins]

Hyperbolic, we were we poor and should have beaten 10 men at home? Hmmmm

[Exiled_red]

I love the guy but he is off form from what we know he can be - I fully support him but am disappointed by his performances......... that doesn’t warrant me having to **** off Pablo [/QUOTE]

His form has certainly taken a dip the last year or so. The problem is that in the team that started today him and Salah are the main goal scoring threats if he is off form the only significant threat in the side is Salah. At the moment Salah (and Jota when he plays) aside it's difficult to see where the goals come from.

[Irishnev]

Klopp saying Bobby has a muscle injury

[cannotmakeit]

Hyperbolic, we were we poor and should have beaten 10 men at home? Hmmmm

Because life and football is a given? Would have thought that that last 2 years would have change our prospective.

[Pablo]

[quote=Irishnev;3732127]

Football is hyperbolic we know that, he’s been off for 18 months now and I hope he turns it around. I fully respect what he has done for us but I’m getting impatient now

Fair enough but I've had a few strong beers and I still kind of want to tell you to **** off

[fabinho]

Read that Mane lost the ball 32 times

Mane is the one player with a fair bit of value that I would've been fairly happy to move on in the summer. He's been pretty avaerage for the last 18 months. He's not alone though to be fair.

[Venton]

I love the guy but he is off form from what we know he can be - I fully support him but am disappointed by his performances......... that doesn’t warrant me having to **** off Pablo

His form has certainly taken a dip the last year or so. The problem is that in the team that started today him and Salah are the main goal scoring threats if he is off form the only significant threat in the side is Salah. At the moment Salah (and Jota when he plays) aside it's difficult to see where the goals come from.

I don't know what it is with him. We know he can do it because he's done it before, tearing up teams. There was a moment today where he received the ball on the wing and sprinted down the line, but as soon as he got to the defender he just stopped, stock still. A year ago or so he'd have skinned them left or right, dropped his shoulder and been past them, but he just seemed to stop. I'm guessing it's a confidence thing, he doesn't seem to be any slower.

[Exiled_red]

I don't know what it is with him. We know he can do it because he's done it before, tearing up teams. There was a moment today where he received the ball on the wing and sprinted down the line, but as soon as he got to the defender he just stopped, stock still. A year ago or so he'd have skinned them left or right, dropped his shoulder and been past them, but he just seemed to stop. I'm guessing it's a confidence thing, he doesn't seem to be any slower.

Either that or some kind of exhaustion physical or mental after all the football of the last few years.

The issue for me is the lack of options, I prefer Jota through the middle, which means he comes in for Bobby but there is still no real cover options for Mane or Salah, if there were I think Mane would have been dropped by now, but our system doesn't work without him.

[Fredo]

Hyperbolic, we were we poor and should have beaten 10 men at home? Hmmmm

You’re always hyperbolic, never have seen a measured reply in here from you. We played against 10 but it’s Chelsea, not Norwich or West Brom. It’s not a given teams who have a numerical advantage wins these type of games.

It’s hyperbolic to state not beating Chelsea 3 games into a season is a disaster. If you’d said disappointing maybe people would have engaged with you a bit more.

[Irishnev]

[quote=Pablo;3732137]

Fair enough but I've had a few strong beers and I still kind of want to tell you to **** off

@Jaco....... Irish assemble

[SB]

Nah. If James wasn't sent off they would not have been so rear guard action and would have offered more going forward giving us space.

Agree with this

[Doc_Piptorious]

[quote=Irishnev;3732147]

@Jaco....... Irish assemble

Was trying to have a sneaky night time ice cream, but let's fecking have whoever we have to feck up