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    LFC's Best Premier League Forward

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58656595

    Luis Suarez faces his old club on Tuesday when Atletico Madrid host Liverpool in the Champions League.

    Suarez is the Reds' fifth highest-scoring forward of the Premier League era with 69 goals in 110 games, before going on to win trophies at Barcelona and now Atletico.

    But where would you rank him among the best Liverpool have had in that time?

    Read about their top 10 goalscoring forwards (so not counting Steven Gerrard) in the league since 1992-93 and rank them below.

    Robbie Fowler (1993-2001, 2006-07)
    PL goals: 128 PL games: 266 PL assists: 30 Mins per PL goal: 158
    No Liverpool player has scored more Premier League goals than Robbie Fowler, the only man to net more than Gerrard.
    Nicknamed 'God' by Liverpool fans and the most natural of finishers, he is the Reds' sixth top scorer ever in all competitions.
    He would probably have scored many more goals if not for a bad injury at the age of 22 - with 83 of his 128 league goals for the Reds before then.

    Michael Owen (1996-2004)
    PL goals: 118 PL games: 216 PL assists: 30 Mins per PL goal: 143
    Another who, like Fowler, would have scored more if not for injury. Owen remains the only Liverpool player to win the Ballon d'Or - back in 2001 - the year he won five trophies for the club (including two minor ones).
    Lightning fast and a lethal finisher, only Fowler and Gerrard scored more Premier League goals for Liverpool than Owen - despite the fact he left for Real Madrid at the age of 24 and never came back.
    He slightly sullied his Liverpool reputation by joining Manchester United later on in his career.

    Mohamed Salah (2017-)
    PL goals: 102 PL games: 153 PL assists: 37 Mins per PL goal: 126
    Mohamed Salah's arrival from Roma in 2017-18 was probably one of the most decisive moments in recent Premier League history.
    He joined a team who had not won a trophy in five seasons and only just qualified for the Champions League.
    His four seasons with the Reds have seen a Champions League win, and a final defeat, a Premier League title winners' medal and two Golden Boots. Not bad for someone who is not even a striker by the old definition.

    Sadio Mane (2016-)
    PL goals: 79 PL games: 170 PL assists: 27 Mins per PL goal: 175
    Mane joined Liverpool the season before Salah and has enjoyed a similar amount of success, sharing the Golden Boot in 2018-19 with Salah and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.
    Two months older than Salah, he falls behind his team-mate on goals, assists and scoring rate.

    Luis Suarez (2011-14)
    PL goals: 69 PL games: 110 PL assists: 23 Mins per PL goal: 139
    Uruguay striker Suarez was a huge hit in three and a half seasons with Liverpool, winning the Golden Boot with 31 goals in 2013-14, the season they almost won the league.
    The 2012 League Cup was the only trophy he won in his time in England.
    He went on to greater success in Spain - winning La Liga in five of his seven years there, a Champions League, and he is Barcelona's third top scorer ever (198 goals).

    Roberto Firmino (2015-)
    PL goals: 70 PL games: 217 PL assists: 43 Mins per PL goal: 236
    One of Liverpool's current iconic front three with Salah and Mane, Firmino is the centre-forward in the team but only averages a goal every two and a half games.
    He does have more assists than anybody else on this list though.

    Fernando Torres (2007-2011)
    PL goals: 65 PL games: 102 PL assists: 12 Mins per PL goal: 121
    Torres had the best minutes-per-goal ratio - and fewest games played - of any Liverpool forward on this list.
    Like Suarez, Torres played three and a half seasons for Liverpool (only managing more than 24 league games once) without a load to show for it - before going on to fill his trophy cabinet elsewhere.
    Torres played more times for Chelsea than Liverpool after his £50m move to Stamford Bridge, scoring fewer goals, but won the Champions League, Europa League and FA Cup there.

    Dirk Kuyt (2006-2012)
    PL goals: 51 PL games: 208 PL assists: 27 Mins per PL goal: 309
    Dutchman Kuyt was popular for his work-rate but was far from a prolific frontman for Liverpool. He played more than 30 Premier League games in each of his seasons at Anfield but never scored more than 13.
    A League Cup in his final season was all he had to show for his time in England, trophy-wise.

    Daniel Sturridge (2013-2019)
    PL goals: 50 PL games: 116 PL assists: 15 Mins per PL goal: 136
    England striker Sturridge scored 50 Premier League goals for the Reds but 62% of them came in the first 23% of his time at the club.
    He netted 31 Premier League goals in his first season and a half, finishing second only to Suarez in the Golden Boot race of 2013-14. The pair formed a lethal combination that season, taking the club to the brink of the title.
    Injuries plagued him after that and he never hit double figures in a league afterwards for the Reds, West Brom or Trabzonspor.

    Ian Rush (1992-1996, Premier League era)
    PL goals: 45 PL games: 130 PL assists: 9 Mins per PL goal: 235
    League goals: 229 League games: 469 Mins per lg goal: 175
    Ian Rush is Liverpool's top goalscorer full stop - 346 in total, 229 in the league.
    But he was 30 when the Premier League was established in 1992 so most of his goals came before then. However, having played for Liverpool for 15 years over two spells, his minutes-per-league-goal stat still ranks below most of the other players on this list.
    He still managed a decent 45 Premier League goals in four seasons before leaving for Leeds.

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    Originally posted by Jas View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58656595

    Luis Suarez faces his old club on Tuesday when Atletico Madrid host Liverpool in the Champions League.

    Suarez is the Reds' fifth highest-scoring forward of the Premier League era with 69 goals in 110 games, before going on to win trophies at Barcelona and now Atletico.

    But where would you rank him among the best Liverpool have had in that time?

    Read about their top 10 goalscoring forwards (so not counting Steven Gerrard) in the league since 1992-93 and rank them below.

    Robbie Fowler (1993-2001, 2006-07)
    PL goals: 128 PL games: 266 PL assists: 30 Mins per PL goal: 158
    No Liverpool player has scored more Premier League goals than Robbie Fowler, the only man to net more than Gerrard.
    Nicknamed 'God' by Liverpool fans and the most natural of finishers, he is the Reds' sixth top scorer ever in all competitions.
    He would probably have scored many more goals if not for a bad injury at the age of 22 - with 83 of his 128 league goals for the Reds before then.

    Michael Owen (1996-2004)
    PL goals: 118 PL games: 216 PL assists: 30 Mins per PL goal: 143
    Another who, like Fowler, would have scored more if not for injury. Owen remains the only Liverpool player to win the Ballon d'Or - back in 2001 - the year he won five trophies for the club (including two minor ones).
    Lightning fast and a lethal finisher, only Fowler and Gerrard scored more Premier League goals for Liverpool than Owen - despite the fact he left for Real Madrid at the age of 24 and never came back.
    He slightly sullied his Liverpool reputation by joining Manchester United later on in his career.

    Mohamed Salah (2017-)
    PL goals: 102 PL games: 153 PL assists: 37 Mins per PL goal: 126
    Mohamed Salah's arrival from Roma in 2017-18 was probably one of the most decisive moments in recent Premier League history.
    He joined a team who had not won a trophy in five seasons and only just qualified for the Champions League.
    His four seasons with the Reds have seen a Champions League win, and a final defeat, a Premier League title winners' medal and two Golden Boots. Not bad for someone who is not even a striker by the old definition.

    Sadio Mane (2016-)
    PL goals: 79 PL games: 170 PL assists: 27 Mins per PL goal: 175
    Mane joined Liverpool the season before Salah and has enjoyed a similar amount of success, sharing the Golden Boot in 2018-19 with Salah and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.
    Two months older than Salah, he falls behind his team-mate on goals, assists and scoring rate.

    Luis Suarez (2011-14)
    PL goals: 69 PL games: 110 PL assists: 23 Mins per PL goal: 139
    Uruguay striker Suarez was a huge hit in three and a half seasons with Liverpool, winning the Golden Boot with 31 goals in 2013-14, the season they almost won the league.
    The 2012 League Cup was the only trophy he won in his time in England.
    He went on to greater success in Spain - winning La Liga in five of his seven years there, a Champions League, and he is Barcelona's third top scorer ever (198 goals).

    Roberto Firmino (2015-)
    PL goals: 70 PL games: 217 PL assists: 43 Mins per PL goal: 236
    One of Liverpool's current iconic front three with Salah and Mane, Firmino is the centre-forward in the team but only averages a goal every two and a half games.
    He does have more assists than anybody else on this list though.

    Fernando Torres (2007-2011)
    PL goals: 65 PL games: 102 PL assists: 12 Mins per PL goal: 121
    Torres had the best minutes-per-goal ratio - and fewest games played - of any Liverpool forward on this list.
    Like Suarez, Torres played three and a half seasons for Liverpool (only managing more than 24 league games once) without a load to show for it - before going on to fill his trophy cabinet elsewhere.
    Torres played more times for Chelsea than Liverpool after his £50m move to Stamford Bridge, scoring fewer goals, but won the Champions League, Europa League and FA Cup there.

    Dirk Kuyt (2006-2012)
    PL goals: 51 PL games: 208 PL assists: 27 Mins per PL goal: 309
    Dutchman Kuyt was popular for his work-rate but was far from a prolific frontman for Liverpool. He played more than 30 Premier League games in each of his seasons at Anfield but never scored more than 13.
    A League Cup in his final season was all he had to show for his time in England, trophy-wise.

    Daniel Sturridge (2013-2019)
    PL goals: 50 PL games: 116 PL assists: 15 Mins per PL goal: 136
    England striker Sturridge scored 50 Premier League goals for the Reds but 62% of them came in the first 23% of his time at the club.
    He netted 31 Premier League goals in his first season and a half, finishing second only to Suarez in the Golden Boot race of 2013-14. The pair formed a lethal combination that season, taking the club to the brink of the title.
    Injuries plagued him after that and he never hit double figures in a league afterwards for the Reds, West Brom or Trabzonspor.

    Ian Rush (1992-1996, Premier League era)
    PL goals: 45 PL games: 130 PL assists: 9 Mins per PL goal: 235
    League goals: 229 League games: 469 Mins per lg goal: 175
    Ian Rush is Liverpool's top goalscorer full stop - 346 in total, 229 in the league.
    But he was 30 when the Premier League was established in 1992 so most of his goals came before then. However, having played for Liverpool for 15 years over two spells, his minutes-per-league-goal stat still ranks below most of the other players on this list.
    He still managed a decent 45 Premier League goals in four seasons before leaving for Leeds.

    My order of merit..............

    https://ranked-list-images.files.bbc...2df34e418.html

    I'd actually have Sturridge ahead of Rush in my order of merit, got it slightly wrong.

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      Don’t really need the quote?
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        Rush last based on PL era alone


        Suarez
        Fowler
        Salah
        Torres
        Owen
        Kuyt
        Sturridge
        Firmino
        Mane
        Rush
        Last edited by ChesterDave; 19-10-21, 02:59 PM. Reason: Edited to include list without clicking link
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          Yeah I had Rush 10th.

          My order went:

          1. Salah
          2. Suarez
          3. Fowler
          4. Torres
          5. Owen
          6. Mane
          7. Firmino
          8. Sturridge
          9. Kuyt
          10. Rush
          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              Salah clear at the top for me, then Suarez.

              Hard to differentiate between Fowler, Torres and Owen all fairly prolific. I find it hard to argue a case for Fowler ahead of Owen, if you are looking at ‘loyalty’ that’s different - but on the pitch Owen was incredible.

              Also if it’s Prem era it is hard to ignore Sadio. He’s won it for one, scoring some big goals along the way.

              I’d have loved to see how Klopp would have worked with some of them, but I suspect he’s not have been able to tolerate Suarez ‘antics’.

              Really hard to define the mid to lower table positions, ask me again tomorrow and Id have a different order.

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                I can't have any era Rush behind Kuyt. Just no, stop it.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rich View Post
                  I can't have any era Rush behind Kuyt. Just no, stop it.
                  I don’t think he should be on the list! It’s not fair to him.
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                    Rushie turns 60 (SIXTY) tomorrow.
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                      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                      Salah clear at the top for me, then Suarez.

                      Hard to differentiate between Fowler, Torres and Owen all fairly prolific. I find it hard to argue a case for Fowler ahead of Owen, if you are looking at ‘loyalty’ that’s different - but on the pitch Owen was incredible.

                      Also if it’s Prem era it is hard to ignore Sadio. He’s won it for one, scoring some big goals along the way.

                      I’d have loved to see how Klopp would have worked with some of them, but I suspect he’s not have been able to tolerate Suarez ‘antics’.

                      Really hard to define the mid to lower table positions, ask me again tomorrow and Id have a different order.

                      They both were to be fair. Very little between them and wouldn’t argue against anyone preferring Owen. I just remember Fowler as a purer finisher and a scorer of more types of goal than Owen. Not that he wasn’t lethal himself of course.

                      I didn’t even consider the ‘loyalty’ thing, it’s never really bothered me that Owen made that move at the end of his career.

                      I feel tight about having Sadio down in 7th and was tempted to just bump him above Fowler and Owen just to have him in the top 5, but there’s so much competition on the list!
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                        They both were to be fair. Very little between them and wouldn’t argue against anyone preferring Owen. I just remember Fowler as a purer finisher and a scorer of more types of goal than Owen. Not that he wasn’t lethal himself of course.

                        I didn’t even consider the ‘loyalty’ thing, it’s never really bothered me that Owen made that move at the end of his career.

                        I feel tight about having Sadio down in 7th and was tempted to just bump him above Fowler and Owen just to have him in the top 5, but there’s so much competition on the list!
                        It is impossible to do them all justice.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                          Salah clear at the top for me, then Suarez.

                          Hard to differentiate between Fowler, Torres and Owen all fairly prolific. I find it hard to argue a case for Fowler ahead of Owen, if you are looking at ‘loyalty’ that’s different - but on the pitch Owen was incredible.

                          Also if it’s Prem era it is hard to ignore Sadio. He’s won it for one, scoring some big goals along the way.

                          I’d have loved to see how Klopp would have worked with some of them, but I suspect he’s not have been able to tolerate Suarez ‘antics’.

                          Really hard to define the mid to lower table positions, ask me again tomorrow and Id have a different order.

                          You could argue that his “antics” are part of the package plus I think Klopp could have helped him control himself and focus it to success on the pitch.

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                            love the prem league polls....... football did not exist before; NO?

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                              Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                              You could argue that his “antics” are part of the package plus I think Klopp could have helped him control himself and focus it to success on the pitch.
                              I don’t think the biting and the negrito issues would have set well with Klopp. But I agree, they may not have happened with a manager such as Klopp. Suarez was bigger than anyone in the club at that point. Klopp is the biggest person and personality within the club since he has signed.
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