Liverpool v Rangers (A) CL

[Exiled_red]

Absolute filth from Bobby.

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/...95485533097984

Great skill, it's kind of weird because from the wide camera angle where you can't see his feet it almost looks like he mis-controls it which really isn't the case

[Buzzo]

Great skill, it's kind of weird because from the wide camera angle where you can't see his feet it almost looks like he mis-controls it which really isn't the case

Yeah you only get it on that last angle.

[maxtor]

Well I did say play Salah more in the middle.

[Venton]

Have to say I was very impressed with Jota's all round game today. His link up play and the positions he took made a big difference.

[S-RED]

£23O in London gets you **** all

Tell me aqbout it £308 for a sat night in best western overlooking victoria station tracks a ciouple odff weekends ago.......

[Irishnev]

Another airing for this chant, disappointing to see we sunk to their level

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[RichC]

Central Salah >>> Touchline Salah

[fidget]

Central Salah >>> Touchline Salah

Central Cee > Touchline Salah

[spud_gun]

Another airing for this chant, disappointing to see we sunk to their level

https://twitter.com/tony4score/statu...05096138952716

Did the Irish woman's team attend the game last night?

[Kenneth]

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[Doc_Piptorious]

Another airing for this chant, disappointing to see we sunk to their level

https://twitter.com/tony4score/statu...05096138952716

Will be interesting to see if it gets the same sort of coverage and comments as the Irish womens team singing it.


No less ignorant and stupid as the women singing it imo.

[Mr Pink]

Will be interesting to see if it gets the same sort of coverage and comments as the Irish womens team singing it.


No less ignorant and stupid as the women singing it imo.

Of course the team singing it is a lot worse than a handful of clowns in the stands?!

When city players sang the chants about Sean cox it was a lot worse than their fans singing it, right?

[Doc_Piptorious]

Of course the team singing it is a lot worse than a handful of clowns in the stands?!

When city players sang the chants about Sean cox it was a lot worse than their fans singing it, right?

Did not say one was better or worse. Said it will be interesting to see if it gets covered the same way as in will the same ignorant comments be just as offensive or does it depnd on who says it.

And no I do not think the City team singing about Sean Cox are better or worse than fans doing it. The same way I do not think players singing about Hillsbrourgh (doing the always the victims chant) are better or worse than fans doing the same.

You stoop to that level and you are already at the bottom of the barrel regardless of whether you are a player of "fan" and the more you do it the more you enable other knuckle draggers to join in.


Player or fan of a certain age, you are still a grown ass adult and responsible for what you want to sing and shout in public or on camera. You want to sing, shout or chant ignorant stuff, then don't bleat when you yourself get labelled/criticised for what you say.

The only saving grace for some folk is that sometimes, and on certan topics, what gets said is simply ignorance due to lack of education on a topic and said folk can change when they learn more about what the meaning is behind what they say and they are embarrassed for saying what they once did.

Some folks though know what they are saying is ignorant, racist, sexits or whatever. They understand it is wrong and they understand why it is wrong and still say it. If a person is of this ilk, then it does not matetr if they are a player or fan, then they own the label of ignoramus, racist, sexist, homophobe or whatever label comes with what they say.


Bit of a long one that and is in no way a dig at you personally. Just how I see things.

[Charly]

I dunno. I think it is worse if players are doing it, as they are paid employees doing it on the work dime in work colours.

They are aslo rolemodels, and if kids (or lets face it, some adults) hear them doing it then they will copy them.

Players are held to a higher standard than dickheads in the stand (and I realise every club has them... but I like to think Liverpool fans should know better).

And thats not to say I dont agree with everything you said

[Doc_Piptorious]

I dunno. I think it is worse if players are doing it, as they are paid employees doing it on the work dime in work colours.

They are aslo rolemodels, and if kids (or lets face it, some adults) hear them doing it then they will copy them.

Players are held to a higher standard than dickheads in the stand (and I realise every club has them... but I like to think Liverpool fans should know better).

And thats not to say I dont agree with everything you said

I am not going to knock anyone that thinks players doing it is worse or that thinks fans are worse for doing it. I do take your point (and I think it might be what Mr Pink meant also) that a potential role model doing it will let to cases of monkey see monkey do and kids growing up thinking it is ok to say as their heroes as saying it.

Is not like it is a good thing regardless of who is saying it and even worse in the cases of any of say it and mean it.

I think with the Ra stuff and a lot of the more nationalistic leaning stuff it obviously hits a nerve more for a lot of Irish folk when we hear idiots saying/chanting it.

It is that bit more disgusting and ignorant when we think about stuff relating to certain organisations decades and decades removed from the Civil War era or even some of the Troubles era (and that is not me condoning or condemning every single thing from those eras either, just me saying that the meaning of certain words carried different meanings in different eras and that history can be a complex mistress at times).

But when I think chants like UP the Ra in 2022, it reminds me of being back in Ireland in the mid 1990s visiting family in county Limerick and driving through Adare village on the day the IRA hit a cash in transit van and opened up on the gardai (Irish police) with AK 47s. No warning, no nothing, just spraying them with bullets as they sat in their cars. I drove through in the aftermath, blue lights flashing everywhere, armed response teams everywhere and so on.

There was no "cause", no heroic standing for Ireland, just terrorists committing murder on the streets of Ireland. That's the type of scium chants like Up the Ra glorifies.

The same scum that when they were in prison that Gerry Adams, the then leader of the political party Sinn Fein, and Mary Lou McDonald, the current leader of the same party, were vocally calling for the release of.

The same scum that the Sinn Fein leadership were there to welcome when they did get released as part of the Good Friday agreement.

And one of those scum being a man who went on to continue a life of crime and terror after being released and then went postal on his own wife with a knidfe and still have the political elements trying to turn themselves into knots to avoid being overly critical.

Up the Ra glamourises the same organisation that shot and killed others in other counties from the 1990s onwards as they robbed from cash in transit vans and the like. The same organisation that developed ties with drug gangs in Ireland and abroad and that played/plays a part in gun running globally.

So for me, as an Irishman, I find that chant in 2022 disgusting, ignorant, embarrassing and if you believe in the words you are saying then you are someone I have no respect for and see no point in you at all.