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**Corndog** · 01-09-24, 11:56 PM

Between him and Diaz for player of the season so far.

The crazy thing is, gravenberch just didn’t have the right final ball on 2-3 occasions today despite getting in some great positions, so his performance was great but could have been even better.

I think he had a good start to his career at LFC last year then faded for a while but he’s just turned 22. He’s a lot younger than he looks and already has a lot of experience.

Absolutely dominated Mainoo today and they aren’t that far off in terms of age.

**Harv** · 02-09-24, 01:26 AM

never doubted him

**Yozza** · 09-09-24, 11:29 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/article/2024/sep/03/why-has-ryan-gravenberch-become-a-key-midfield-cog-for-slot-at-liverpool

Why has Ryan Gravenberch become a key midfield cog for Slot at Liverpool?

Liverpool spent the summer looking for an elite deep-lying midfielder. Many didn’t realise they might already have one

By Ben McAleer for WhoScored

One of Liverpool’s main objectives in the summer window was to sign a new central midfielder. The Reds revamped in the middle of the park 12 months ago, bringing in Alexis Mac Allister, Dominik Szoboszlai, Wataru Endo and Ryan Gravenberch following a number of high-profile exits.

Yet it felt as though there was a piece missing to the midfield puzzle. Liverpool sought to rectify the issue in their pursuit of Martín Zubimendi, but the player’s reluctance to swap sunny San Sebastian for Merseyside was a blow to the club. Unbeknown to many, though, the answer to Liverpool’s midfield problem was already on the books.

When he arrived last summer, Mac Allister was initially used as the deepest lying midfielder in Jürgen Klopp’s favoured 4-3-3 setup, at least until Endo established himself as a key cog. Arne Slot has moved the Reds to a 4-2-3-1 system, however, one he favoured during his time as Feyenoord boss.

The aim, then, was to partner Mac Allister with a more natural holder to grant the Argentinian the freedom to push on and link the two banks of midfield, a system that the 25-year-old thrived in during his time with Brighton. If the opening weeks of the season are anything to go by, then Slot had the solution to this issue all along.

Gravenberch struggled for regular minutes under Klopp last season, making just 12 league starts in his debut campaign at Anfield following his arrival from Bayern Munich. A deadline-day arrival from the Bundesliga side, he could have been perceived as a bit of a panic buy to swell the club’s midfield ranks.

Yet Gravenberch’s early impact this season at the base of the midfield has contributed to Liverpool’s 100% start, with three successive clean sheets to boot. Supporters are no longer yearning for Zubimendi. Gravenberch ranks top for tackles (eight) and interceptions (seven), and second for total passes (176) of all Liverpool players after the opening three games. No Liverpool player has won more ground duels than the young Dutchman (15).

Playing in a 4-2-3-1 isn’t an alien concept for Gravenberch, who excelled as part of a double pivot for Ajax under Erik ten Hag. However, he did so alongside a more natural ball-winning midfielder in Edson Álvarez. Now, Gravenberch is the one that looks to shield the defence and get the ball rolling when he does reclaim possession, and he is doing so impressively.

The Reds eased to a 3-0 win at Manchester United, though they could and should have won by more, and Gravenberch was imperious in the middle of the park. With the games set to come thick and fast following Liverpool’s return to the Champions League – a competition revamped with the addition of two extra games in the league stage – the Reds may dip into the market in the new year to help ease the pressure on Gravenberch and Mac Allister.

Following a couple of confidence-sapping spell at Bayern and a hit-and-miss debut campaign at Anfield, Gravenberch has been hugely influential in Liverpool’s flying start to life under the former Feyenoord boss.

“He has to develop in that position, that’s also clear, but he’s comfortable with the ball, he can run, he can keep running,” Slot said of Gravenberch as Liverpool’s No 6 before their season opener at Ipswich last month. At 22, there is plenty of time to improve in the role, while his displays in the wins over Ipswich, Brentford and United has seen Gravenberch exceed early expectations and give hope he might just prove to be the battling midfielder Liverpool have needed for some time now.

SB · 09-09-24, 04:14 PM

He really is the surprise improver from last years squad.

**Irishnev** · 09-09-24, 05:34 PM

Good signs but it’s three games in vs relatively **** opposition, I want to see him doing it consistently

SB · 09-09-24, 05:48 PM

Brentford aren’t that bad. The other two I’ll concede though

**BobTheCharmer** · 09-09-24, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Irishnev View Post

Good signs but it’s three games in vs relatively **** opposition, I want to see him doing it consistently

Exactly. He's looked good and it's promising but he might be **** for the next 35 games. Need a bigger sample size before confirming he's undroppable. Dom looked signing of the season come November and then bombed spectacularly for the 2nd half.

**memzey** · 09-09-24, 08:10 PM

There’s no doubt that Ryan has looked the business in our first three games, very good in fact. The remaining doubt for me is due to his apparent lack of beef. Feed the lad three steaks a day, at least two of which should be raw, and I recon we’ll have a player on our hands by Christmas.

**Buzzo** · 09-09-24, 08:30 PM