Spurs Away thread

[slaine]

TBH I'm more interested in knowing - did they know about this error before the game was over - did they wait until the final whistle to acknowledge it? At least while the game is being played goals can be given/removed - is there any time limit on that? Have they waited until it was too late?

I'd imagine their next press release will be along the lines of... 'Due to the strenuous analyses of games after the fact, we identified some areas of concern. These will be reviewed and acted on, nothing to see here...'

[Assassin]

This was when he was already on a yellow….. the lack of consistency is infuriating

https://twitter.com/stehoare/status/1708204662514499794

That cunt from the bitters done the same in the first few minutes. Nothing happened. The law apparently only applies to LFC

[slaine]

someone should do a freedom of information request on the VAR idiots, to determine their process for determining offsides... It clearly didn't have the lines shown on TV...

[Zapater]

Swindled, there should be grounds for a replay based on that fixture. They're ****ing **** too, media wanking over them like they did something. They created no chances against 9 men and got lucky with an OG. **** them.

[fidget]

and **** the matrix lol

[Tatterdemalion]

So my thoughts:

At what point did PGMOL know about the error?

The statement came out very quickly after the game. This implies that -
They must have been drafting that statement before the end of the game, which means that -
They must have known about the error before the game was over, which means that -
Given the implications of such an error, and given the game is still in play - why did they not do something about it when they became aware of the error?

You can't use the argument that the referee's decision is final - otherwise there'd be no need for an apology - nor VAR.

But more to the point - rather than suffer the circumstances - why not intervene? In which case any game becomes a **** show admittedly.

Still - there are a lot of questions to be answered here, which given the money increasingly involved are going to happen sooner or later.

[DeanoUK]

Spurs Away thread

someone should do a freedom of information request on the VAR idiots, to determine their process for determining offsides... It clearly didn't have the lines shown on TV...

I’ve never seen a quicker var decision in my life.

[Rafa Justice]

Makes me wonder if there's any point watching football again ever.

[SB]

This is getting tedious from the officials. VAR overturning one they shouldn’t & not overturning the one they should. Something must be done but even then we can’t get back the 3 points that we left out there today.

[Fivex]

Tottenham vs. Liverpool: *Bumper* Post-Scandal Analysis

Paul Tomkins

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/tottenham-vs-liverpool-bumper-post

Won’t copy pasta since cba sorting out the images

[Tatterdemalion]

It's basically just compounding **** ref decisions. Sometimes they offset each other, sometimes they compound. You could do just as well with two refs on the pitch.

[Buzzo]

I just don’t see how a wrong decision like that is possible with VAR?

It literally exists to give the space to officials to ensure that a mistake of that magnitude is impossible. Serious questions…

[spud_gun]

not a red card

[Exiled_red]

I have said this before but I think another of the issues with VAR are solved by the conversation between the ref and the VAR officials being broadcast in the ground and on TV live. For the offside as far as I am aware there isn't any, as it is regarded as a matter of fact, but even the VAR official saying I have looked at the lines and Spurs number xx is playing him onside gives clarity for everyone to know what has happened. In this case we don't know anything about why the VAR didn't intervene, did they pick the wrong frame for when the ball was played, did they look at the wrong defender, did he just hit the button to say done because he couldn't be arsenal or what?

The other thing that I think it clears up is the thought process in the decisions that are open to interpretation, what I didn't like about the Jones one was the ref was walking over to a screen with a still of the contact on it, that was there for a good few seconds, and I may be wrong about this but I think the ref only saw a slow mo replay and the incident at one angle. Because what the VAR has decided to show him he has probably already made his decision before he even reaches the screen looking at that still and having been told you've probably got it wrong. But actually having some discussion about it makes the game and the rules more accessible to everyone, and confirms that the referee is making the decision himself rather than being manipulated by what the VAR chooses to show him. As everyone except those in power think we needed to adopt the rugby system, but the people running football are so arrogant they can't believe that anyone else can do better than them.

[Exiled_red]

I just don’t see how a wrong decision like that is possible with VAR?

It literally exists to give the space to officials to ensure that a mistake of that magnitude is impossible. Serious questions…

It makes you wonder how many other mistakes there have been.